Caolan McNamara wrote:
On Mon, 2007-12-03 at 09:24 +0100, Mathias Bauer wrote:
Michael Meeks wrote:

If we want to do this for OpenOffice.org, we should decide about this now. Because in that case we will need to rewrite lots of the modal
dialogs anyway. So replacing them now with a 1:1 layouted modal dialog
is just wasted resources. Changing a modal dialog to a non modal one
is more than just moving the controls to another window, trust me.
        This can be read as "please stop what you are doing, now" ;-)
I don't think so. IMHO we just need some coordination.

I didn't read Christian's statement as a plea to do everything in one
step, as I understood he just opted for agreeing on the general goal. We
won't redesign and rewrite all existing dialogs into non-modal panes at
once. But it would be good and nice to actually start now with some of
them. As an example, I would like to convert all "Format-whatever"
dialogs into parts of a formatting pane. In fact we are currently
discussing ways to implement that with the developers from RedFlag2000.
And we will need the layouter for this. (*)

A concern is that the great is made the enemy of great and the bar for
initial entry of the much-needed new layouting ability is made dependant
on an extended set of requirements that pushes it further into the
future. We're talking about widget layout for many years and this is the
closest we've seen to date. Just getting it *in* without disrupting
existing dialogs seems the vital bit.
No one wants to interrupt it, not even me even if some people
read it that way. As I initially stated, what Jan is doing is a step
in the right direction. But as we learn that even try to discuss
what to do next is nailed down, from one side or the other.
If you are the bad guy no matter what you say I will just shut up
now and do some work. Its just no fun anymore....

Christian.

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