Sorry folks. Dave Fisher sensed correctly it was a particularly bad day with some domestic issues I am dealing with at the moment and I should not have vented my frustrations at people who did not deserve my "knee-jerk" reaction to a misunderstanding.
I would like to put my outburst aside and move on with AOO. Regards Dave Barton On 02/08/2022 17:12, Dave Fisher wrote: > After 21 years working with users of OpenOffice.org, Apache OpenOffice, and > LibreOffice Dave’s experience should be respected and not dismissed. > > Assume a bad day or frustration instead of further reaction. Apologizing for > misunderstanding someone is good, friendly community building. > > Assume the best, > Dave > > Sent from my iPhone > >> On Aug 2, 2022, at 8:49 AM, Peter kovacs <peter.kov...@posteo.de> wrote: >> >> Hi Dave, >> >> Can you explain? >> I do not understand why Dave is angry. >> I dont think Matthias wanted to offend Dave. >> >> Thanks. >> Peter >> >> Am 2. August 2022 16:54:04 MESZ schrieb Dave Fisher <wave4d...@comcast.net>: >>> I think you owe Dave an apology, but that’s just my opinion. >>> >>> If he has truly moved on I expect him to be professional and resign from >>> moderation. >>> >>> All the best, >>> Dave >>> >>> Sent from my iPhone >>> >>>>> On Aug 2, 2022, at 2:20 AM, Matthias Seidel <matthias.sei...@hamburg.de> >>>>> wrote: >>>> >>>> I am not sure what happened here... >>>> >>>> But his statement is clear, he now wants to be an "Anti-AOO promoter". >>>> >>>> According to Whimsy he is moderator of several OO mailing lists. We >>>> should discuss if we need to remove his rights. >>>> >>>> Regards, >>>> >>>> Matthias >>>> >>>>> Am 02.08.22 um 07:21 schrieb Peter Kovacs: >>>>> I am surprised on the end of this discussion. I did not expect a rage >>>>> quit. >>>>> >>>>> There is no reason to take this personal. But well I guess it is to >>>>> late for that. >>>>> >>>>>> Am 01.08.22 um 23:02 schrieb Dave: >>>>>> Hi Matthias, >>>>>> >>>>>> Sorry, when I used the jovial expression "HOARDS" I didn't realise you >>>>>> had absolutely no sense of humour. >>>>>> >>>>>> Since 2001 I have trained more users of OOO.org, AOO and LO than you >>>>>> have ever had contact with. So please do NOT!!!!! (expletives deleted) >>>>>> talk down to me about users. I know users, YOU DO NOT, you only guess >>>>>> who they might be. >>>>>> >>>>>> YOU have just won your beloved project an Anti-AOO promoter. From here >>>>>> on the ASF and AOO can "Stick it where the sun don't shine". >>>>>> >>>>>> Don't waste time with any replies, because all messages from this list >>>>>> will now be directed to null/dev. >>>>>> >>>>>> BYE AOO! >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> On 01/08/2022 21:28, Matthias Seidel wrote: >>>>>>> Hi Dave, >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Am 01.08.22 um 22:17 schrieb Dave: >>>>>>>> Hi Matthias, >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Sorry, but you loose that bet. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> I temporarily put aside my loathing and detestation of GNOME and >>>>>>>> installed the standard Ubuntu 22.04 GNOME desktop edition. My only >>>>>>>> readily available box was an AMD FX-8350 Eight-Core Processor with >>>>>>>> 16Gb >>>>>>>> RAM. Not an exact match for Peter's hardware, but possibly close >>>>>>>> enough. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Pity these galactic hoards of GNOME users didn't step up and offer >>>>>>>> SOMETHING to assist Peter. >>>>>>> I never spoke of *hoards* but I don't think we should ignore our user. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> And users normally don't step up, that needs a developer. >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> @Peter: >>>>>>>> On this Ubuntu setup I removed LO and installed the released AOO >>>>>>>> 4.1.13 >>>>>>>> edition. I opened your document and tried every trick I could think of >>>>>>>> to create a crash, but it remained rock solid. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Is there any difference between the RC and released code? >>>>>>> No. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Regards, >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Matthias >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Regards >>>>>>>> Dave >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> On 01/08/2022 17:32, Matthias Seidel wrote: >>>>>>>>> Hi Dave, >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Am 01.08.22 um 18:25 schrieb Dave: >>>>>>>>>> Hi Matthias, >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Cinnamon, but I run PCLinuxOS KDE on my main production box. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> I have never been a fan of GNOME. >>>>>>>>> I bet you would get a crash when using GNOME. ;-) >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Someone should have a look into it, these crashes are annoying and >>>>>>>>> a lot >>>>>>>>> of people *are* using GNOME... >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Regards, >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Matthias >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Regards >>>>>>>>>> Dave >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> On 01/08/2022 16:59, Matthias Seidel wrote: >>>>>>>>>>> Hi Dave, >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> Which desktop environment are you using on Linux Mint? >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> We do have some issues with Ubuntu (GNOME) and other >>>>>>>>>>> distributions when >>>>>>>>>>> GNOME is used as DE. >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> Regards, >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> Matthias >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> Am 01.08.22 um 17:53 schrieb Dave: >>>>>>>>>>>> On 01/08/2022 06:57, Peter Kovacs wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>> Hi all, >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> I had this morning some wired effects, during my work with AOO. >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> As soon as I have added a OLE Calc part through Copy&Paste (From >>>>>>>>>>>>> LibreOffice :-D ), I get performance issues including crashes. >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> Has anyone heard of performance issues in this constraint? >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> Check out the document: >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> https://drive.google.com/file/d/1ZScKadukzWfZGeJWsTEaGf1ORrLrmwGl/view?usp=sharing >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> I am on Ubunutu 20.04. AOO is the 4.1.13 RC candidate. >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> My machine is an Intel I5, with 32GB, and SSD hard disk. (So >>>>>>>>>>>>> recent fast >>>>>>>>>>>>> machine) >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> All the best >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> Peter >>>>>>>>>>>> Hi Peter, >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> Not sure if this will be of any help to you. >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> My hardware spec is very similar to yours and I am on Linux >>>>>>>>>>>> Mint 20.3 >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> I don't get any (performance issues?) with your document in AOO >>>>>>>>>>>> 4.1.13 >>>>>>>>>>>> (Released) and no crash when editing the OLE Calc object, with >>>>>>>>>>>> either >>>>>>>>>>>> AOO or LibreOffice on Linux. >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> However, I do get a 100% reproducible crash when attempting to >>>>>>>>>>>> edit the >>>>>>>>>>>> OLE Calc object in your document with LibreOffice 7.3.5.2 x64 >>>>>>>>>>>> on Win 10, >>>>>>>>>>>> but it does not crash LibreOffice 7.4.0.2 x64 on Win 10. >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> Regards >>>>>>>>>>>> Dave >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> --------------------------------------------------------------------- >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org >>>>>>>>>>>> For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@openoffice.apache.org >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> --------------------------------------------------------------------- >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org >>>>>>>>>> For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@openoffice.apache.org >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> --------------------------------------------------------------------- >>>>>>>> To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org >>>>>>>> For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@openoffice.apache.org >>>>>>>> >>>>>> --------------------------------------------------------------------- >>>>>> To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org >>>>>> For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@openoffice.apache.org >>>>>> >>>>> >>>>> --------------------------------------------------------------------- >>>>> To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org >>>>> For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@openoffice.apache.org >>>>> >>>> >>> >>> >>> --------------------------------------------------------------------- >>> To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org >>> For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@openoffice.apache.org >>> > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org > For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@openoffice.apache.org > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@openoffice.apache.org
