> On Nov 6, 2021, at 2:34 PM, Dave <b...@apache.org> wrote:
>
> On 06/11/2021 19:26, Dave Fisher wrote:
>>
>>
>>> On Nov 6, 2021, at 3:45 AM, Dave <b...@apache.org> wrote:
>>>
>>> On 06/11/2021 10:30, Marcus wrote:
>>>> Am 06.11.21 um 10:16 schrieb Jörg Schmidt:
>>>>> following Dave's advice {1], I contacted one moderator of the list
>>>>> users...@openoffice.apache.org I know and was promised that spam
>>>>> emails would be rejected in future - unfortunately, however, no action
>>>>> was taken, because there is spam again from the sender on the list
>>>>> that I had specifically pointed out.
>>>>>
>>>>> Can someone please tell me who moderates this list? I would then try
>>>>> to write to another moderator and ask for help.
>>>>>
>>>>> [1]
>>>>> see the thread "How to delete a wrong email list subscription?"
>>>>
>>>> I can see that Michael and Dave could be moderators of the list. But
>>>> maybe it's a bit outdated.
>>>>
>>>> Marcus
>>>
>>> I have been a moderator for some of our English lists since the
>>> project's poddling days. Unfortunately, my knowledge of German is not
>>> very good, so I would not be of much help for the German users list.
>>>
>>> I have asked before why the PMC does not wish moderators to be
>>> identified, but never received any rational answer.
>>
>> Providing a clear identification of moderators would be a privacy challenge.
>>
>> The mechanism to contact moderators is to send an email to
>> users-de-own...@openoffice.apache.org
>>
>> Regards,
>> Dave
>>
>>>
>>> Dave
>
> Sorry to put it this way Dave, but this is the same answer that I have
> had received from you and other PMC members previously.
>
> If your statement is true, then we and the ASF have a very serious and
> extreme privacy challenge here:
> https://people.apache.org/committers-by-project.html#openoffice
>
> In my view anyone who "steps up to he plate" for ANY role in an OPEN
> source project should not have any concerns about being identified a
> contributor and their role that project. I am not ashamed of being
> identified as a (very small, relatively unimportant) contributor to the
> AOO project and I suggest that ANYONE who is wishes to adopt this
> underhanded, secretive approach, should step away from the project.
I agree about every role except moderation. I moderate 27 different Apache
Mailing Lists only one of which is an AOO list.
If the community wishes to disclose all of the moderators that would be an
acceptable outcome.
>
> Yes, my commentary will be misinterpreted by some as inflammatory, but
> like Jörg I am both a supporter and critic of the AOO project.
Fair enough.
>
> As a separate issue, the above mentioned link is seriously in need of
> review and update, because many of the people mentioned are no longer
> active in, or have resigned from the positions listed. Also one person
> listed regrettably passed away last month.
This is the flip side of tracking people in various positions. Thanks for
letting us know.
There are many places that list people no longer involved in the project. PRs
and edits are possible and any committer or contributor (depending on the
resource) is welcome to submit or make corrections.
Regards,
Dave
>
> Regards
> Dave
>
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