Hi Marcus, Am 31.12.20 um 11:41 schrieb Marcus: > Am 31.12.20 um 01:01 schrieb Matthias Seidel: >> Am 31.12.20 um 00:46 schrieb Marcus: >>> As I haven't seen any veto-like negative statement the change is now >>> online. >>> >>> However, any changes are still possible. >> >> I would propose that we add some additional text for Windows and macOS. >> It could be done similar to Linux (DEB vs. RPM). Maybe we could make the >> color a bit more visible? >> >> This would allow us to tell people that the Windows 32-bit version is >> also suitable for Windows 64-bit and that the macOS version >= 10.7 also >> runs with macOS Big Sur on Apple M1 chips. > > yes, that was also my idea. And the reason for my question via PM. ;-) > But of course we can also extended this trick to the Mac users. As we see, a lot of users don't know about Rosetta 2. And until we have a "Universal Binary" we should give them a hint. > > Unfortunatelly, we need to add (and translate) these new strings to > every download page.
Yes, I would proceed like we did it with the Linux notes: Add the strings (in English) to every download page and let the translation teams translate. This is much easier now with Git(Hub). If a language is unmaintained, the strings will remain in English until someone volunteers to translate them. Matthias > > Marcus > > > >>> Am 30.12.20 um 00:18 schrieb Marcus: >>>> Am 29.12.20 um 20:05 schrieb Dave Fisher: >>>>>> On Dec 29, 2020, at 10:47 AM, Czesław Wolański >>>>>> <czeslaw.wolan...@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>> I suggest we offer something clearer and more direct. I’m not sure >>>>>>> what >>>>>> that is. >>>>>>> Perhaps we need a compatible java page to point Windows, macOS, >>>>>>> and Linux >>>>>> users >>>>>>> to acceptable versions. >>>>>>> Maybe we have such a page we can better highlight from the >>>>>>> Download page? >>>>>> >>>>>> Link on the download page "Java and Apache OpenOffice" >>>>>> >>>>>> https://www.openoffice.org/download/common/java.html >>>>>> >>>>>> Page with sections: >>>>>> - "Why Do I Need Java to Use Apache OpenOffice?", >>>>>> - "Which Java Version Do I Need to Use Apache OpenOffice?" >>>>>> - "Where Can I Get Java?". >>>>>> >>>>>> Is that a good starting point? >>>>> >>>>> I think so. That page could use a major edit. We don’t need to >>>>> discuss legacy releases and the links need to be more direct. >>>> >>>> +1 >>>> >>>>> For Oracle looks best: https://java.com/en/download/manual.jsp >>>>> <https://java.com/en/download/manual.jsp> >>>>> >>>>> And instead of OpenJDK we should point to AdoptOpenJDK: >>>>> https://adoptopenjdk.net/releases.html >>>>> <https://adoptopenjdk.net/releases.html> >>>>> >>>>> It looks like we could even add a button to the download page that >>>>> might pick out the proper adoptopenjdk. >>>> >>>> Even this is possible. But it takes time as the download style and >>>> JavaScript magic needs to be extended. >>>> >>>> Until then the simple "Windows 32-bit (x86) (EXE)" drop-down-item is >>>> a good and clear statement to separate from 64-bit. >>>> >>>> I can also add a 64-bit item with a hint text that AOO 32-bit will >>>> run also on Windows 64-bit and I can also add a Java hint. >>>> >>>> Marcus >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>>>> Am Di., 29. Dez. 2020 um 19:02 Uhr schrieb Dave Fisher >>>>>> <w...@apache.org>: >>>>>>>> On Dec 29, 2020, at 9:47 AM, Rory O'Farrell <ofarr...@iol.ie> >>>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>>> On Tue, 29 Dec 2020 18:31:23 +0100 >>>>>>>> Peter Kovacs <pe...@apache.org> wrote: >>>>>>>>>> On 29.12.20 18:25, Dave Fisher wrote: >>>>>>>>>>> On Dec 29, 2020, at 8:39 AM, Jörg Schmidt >>>>>>>>>>> <joe...@j-m-schmidt.de> >>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> -----Original Message----- >>>>>>>>>>>> From: Bidouille [mailto:ooofo...@free.fr] >>>>>>>>>>>> Sent: Tuesday, December 29, 2020 3:02 PM >>>>>>>>>>>> To: dev@openoffice.apache.org >>>>>>>>>>>> Subject: Re: Proposed change for download page >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> Personally, I don't see the need until we have a real x64 >>>>>>>>>>>>> version. >>>>>>>>>>>> +1 >>>>>>>>>>> Don't you care if users can't find their way around and >>>>>>>>>>> therefore >>>>>>> stop using AOO? >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> That was exactly the result of the thread that prompted me to >>>>>>>>>>> suggest >>>>>>> a small correction on the download page. >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> The thread is unfortunately in German, but here is the link: >>>>>>>>>>> http://de.openoffice.info/viewtopic.php?p=293070#p293070 >>>>>>>>>> You should have started your discussion with this context. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> It is better to discuss the actual problem which is that >>>>>>>>>> Windows users >>>>>>> of AOO don’t know that they require a 32 bit Java than it is to >>>>>>> suggest a >>>>>>> minor fix to the download page. >>>>>>>>> Java 32 bit is part of the release notes. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Which, experience on en-Forum indicates, no average user ever >>>>>>>> reads! >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Does your average Windows user know the difference between X86 and >>>>>>> X64?! >>>>>>> >>>>>>> I suggest we offer something clearer and more direct. I’m not sure >>>>>>> what >>>>>>> that is. Perhaps we need a compatible java page to point Windows, >>>>>>> macOS, >>>>>>> and Linux users to acceptable versions. Maybe we have such a page >>>>>>> we can >>>>>>> better highlight from the Download page? >>>>>>> >>>>>>> What advice does the en-Forum offer? > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org > For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@openoffice.apache.org >
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