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Am 08.12.20 um 10:23 schrieb Jörg Schmidt: > > >> -----Original Message----- >> From: Peter Kovacs [mailto:pe...@apache.org] >> Sent: Tuesday, December 08, 2020 9:46 AM >> To: dev@openoffice.apache.org >> Subject: Re: [discussion] future embedded DB in AOO >> >> >> On 08.12.20 09:14, Jörg Schmidt wrote: >>> >>> >>>> -----Original Message----- >>>> From: Peter Kovacs [mailto:pe...@apache.org] >>>> Sent: Monday, December 07, 2020 11:03 PM >>>> To: dev@openoffice.apache.org >>>> Subject: Re: [discussion] future embedded DB in AOO >>>>> Maybe one more thing: Is the problem database even important? >>>> We cannot build with Java 11 and up. Decisions have to be >> made soon. >>>> Strategy has to be setup. A Roadmap would be great >>> Peter, I do not understand what that means in concrete terms. >>> >>> IF Java is a critical factor (I guess because of Oracle's >> licensing policy) why is it less so for H2 or Derby than for HSQLDB? >> >> No, I meant that building OpenOffice with Java 11 and later >> causes the >> build to break on hsqldb. So we need to talk >> >> what we do. Current state is that we need to change the code >> in order to >> build on a later Java Version. That is what brought this >> topic up. And >> again I want to have a discussion on what we head out for. What is >> needed. And I think this makes it a good time to collect all >> opinions, >> arguments and requirements. > > Thank you for this declaration. The situation is therefore understandable to > me. > >>> Actually we should rather choose a database that works >> without Java(?) >>> >>> Also: IF the Java question is urgent, why is it only for >> Base? Doesn't belong then on the agenda anymore? >> >> Where do I say it is urgent? > > I had understood "We cannot build with Java 11 and up." that way. > >> This takes time. It is a good time to start this now. > > yes, this is true > > >> What is your opinion on Java? Not that I want to start a general Java >> discussion, but you are right they are connected. > > As far as I know from Mathias Java is, in the long run, a problem because of > the licensing policy of Oracle(*) and we have to find ways to free ourselves > from this dependency. This isn't a problem anymore, because we can use Adopt OpenJDK, which is used in the linux distributions since long time. > > Since these are rather long-term considerations, I can't say if we have to > consider this already now for a decision regarding Base. > It would tend to make sense, but searching for a database without Java > dependency might collide somewhat with the question of multiplatform > capability. > > But please ... I am only answering your question here, I do not want to > encourage you to expand the discussion. > > > (*) > if I understood it correctly, the problem is not technical in essence, but > future Java versions should be subject to license fees, at least for business > use (?) > > Jörg > -- Mechtilde Stehmann ## Apache OpenOffice ## Freie Office Suite für Linux, MacOSX, Windows und OS/2 ## Debian Developer ## PGP encryption welcome ## F0E3 7F3D C87A 4998 2899 39E7 F287 7BBA 141A AD7F
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