Hi -

> On Nov 12, 2020, at 9:48 AM, Matthias Seidel <matthias.sei...@hamburg.de> 
> wrote:
> 
> Hi Dave,
> 
> Top posting:
> 
> I made a small change to css in o.a.o now:
> 
> https://openoffice.staged.apache.org/downloads.html

Great.

> 
> BTW: How do we prevent search engines to index the staged pages? Is
> robots.txt still "state of the art"?

The staging servers are not usual targets for crawlers - we should only worry 
about this if we are going to leave things staged for sometime.

For the project site I think we should just publish immediately.

For oo.o a robots.txt that is special is additional work. Right now the 
production robots.txt is copied as is from staging.

Regards,
Dave

> 
> Regards,
> 
>    Matthias
> 
> 
> Am 11.11.20 um 23:49 schrieb Dave Fisher:
>> Hi -
>> 
>>> On Nov 11, 2020, at 12:53 PM, Matthias Seidel <matthias.sei...@hamburg.de> 
>>> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hi Dave, Peter,
>>> 
>>> Am 11.11.20 um 21:45 schrieb Peter Kovacs:
>>>> Awesome Job, Dave! I really appreciate the hard work you have put into
>>>> this topic.
>>> I couldn't have said it better...
>>>> So next steps would be to get the
>>>> 
>>>> 1) Check for Issues
>>>> 
>>>> 2) update page towards 4.1.8
>> For OOo - I need to remigrate a set of pages. I’m waiting until those are 
>> stable.
>> 
>>>> 3) switch to the new system
>>>> 
>>>> in roder to finish the Migration?
>>> I would propose to switch openoffice.apache.org first. It looks really
>>> identical for me and rhe risk is low.
>> Agreed. There is only a small thing I want to check.
>>> Additionally I have slightly modified css, that I would like to test.
>> Playing with css is a perfect thing to do now. Please see it in 
>> theme/openoffice/static/css/openoffice.css
>> 
>> Learn to do it before we go live. Edit it in Github. Save. Wait one minute 
>> and check the staging site.
>> 
>> 
>>> Regards,
>>> 
>>>   Matthias
>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> As a next step I see an inventory of the pages and get an overview on
>>>> the content.
>> Yes for the project site - oo.a.o
>> 
>>>> Maybe we can develop then a plan for restructuring and modernizing the
>>>> pages.
>> Let’s get switched over.
>> 
>> Redesigning of oo.a.o is easier than oo.o
>> 
>> For oo.a.o you study the /theme/openoffice/templates and css mentioned above.
>> 
>> For oo.o you study the /templates/ and ooo.css
>> 
>>>> Any other Ideas what are the next steps?
>> If a designer creates an html skeleton then we can make it fit the templates 
>> and css.
>> 
>> Regards,
>> Dave
>> 
>>>> 
>>>> All the best
>>>> 
>>>> Peter
>>>> 
>>>> Am 11.11.20 um 20:35 schrieb Dave Fisher:
>>>>> We have two websites using the Apache CMS which has been deprecated.
>>>>> 
>>>>> I have migrated both of these sites away from the CMS.
>>>>> 
>>>>> (1) The project website - https://openoffice.apache.org
>>>>> <https://openoffice.apache.org/>
>>>>> 
>>>>> The new repository is https://github.com/apache/openoffice-project
>>>>> <https://github.com/apache/openoffice-project>
>>>>> Staging is https://openoffice.staged.apache.org/
>>>>> <https://openoffice.staged.apache.org/>
>>>>> 
>>>>> This site uses Pelican and Markdown. It automatically builds and
>>>>> pushes to staging when changes are submitted. Buildbot is used along
>>>>> with Infra’s preferred .asf.yaml methods.
>>>>> 
>>>>> The content is caught up to the 4.1.8 release. The README.md still
>>>>> needs work.
>>>>> 
>>>>> There are 46 pages and many are out of date. Committers are enabled
>>>>> to make edits and the site will update in less than one minute.
>>>>> 
>>>>> (2) The user site - https://www.openoffice.org
>>>>> <https://www.openoffice.org/>
>>>>> 
>>>>> The new repository is https://github.com/apache/openoffice-org
>>>>> <https://github.com/apache/openoffice-org>
>>>>> Staging is https://openoffice-org.staged.apache.org
>>>>> <https://openoffice-org.staged.apache.org/>
>>>>> 
>>>>> This site uses JBake, Groovy, HTML, and Markdown. The README.md
>>>>> explains how it is built using Jenkins.
>>>>> 
>>>>> The content is not yet caught up to the 4.1.8 release.
>>>>> 
>>>>> There are approximately 20,000 pages of which about 300 are Markdown.
>>>>> Why and Product markdown pages should be easier to translate since
>>>>> the special class attributes have been removed to a post processing
>>>>> step.
>>>>> 
>>>>> Regards,
>>>>> Dave
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