> -----Original Message----- > From: Marcus [mailto:marcus.m...@wtnet.de] > Sent: Friday, September 11, 2020 7:26 PM > To: dev@openoffice.apache.org > Subject: Re: we are a ASF-project > > Am 11.09.20 um 10:55 schrieb Jörg Schmidt: > > > >> -----Original Message----- > >> From: Marcus [mailto:marcus.m...@wtnet.de] > >> Sent: Thursday, September 10, 2020 8:06 PM > >> To: dev@openoffice.apache.org > >> Subject: Re: we are a ASF-project > >> > >> Am 10.09.20 um 09:55 schrieb Jörg Schmidt: > >>>> -----Original Message----- > >>>> From: Marcus [mailto:marcus.m...@wtnet.de] > >>>> Sent: Thursday, September 10, 2020 12:06 AM > >>>> To: dev@openoffice.apache.org > >>>> Subject: Re: we are a ASF-project > >>>> > >>>> Am 09.09.20 um 20:39 schrieb Jörg Schmidt: > >>>>>> -----Original Message----- > >>>>>> From: Marcus [mailto:marcus.m...@wtnet.de] > >>>>>> Sent: Wednesday, September 09, 2020 8:15 PM > >>>>>> To: dev@openoffice.apache.org > >>>>>> Subject: Re: we are a ASF-project > >>>>>> > >>>>>> Am 09.09.20 um 20:00 schrieb Jörg Schmidt: > >>>>>>>> Even "open source" vs. "open-source" has already been > >>>>>>>> discussed in June. > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> So you think it is in the interest of the ASF if one of its > >>>>>> projects uses a different spelling than the ASF itself? > >>>>>> > >>>>>> I understand your statement as a provocation. So, what do > >>>> you want to > >>>>>> reach with this? > >>>>> > >>>>> I don't want to achieve anything with it, because I can't > >>>> achieve anything formally with it, because the discussion > >> is closed. > >>>>> > >>>>> I just point out to all of us that it seems to me a strange > >>>> procedure to discuss spelling. > >>>>> > >>>>> [...] > >>>>> > >>>>> Marcus, things are much easier than you think. > >>>>> > >>>>> I know that in German the spelling of "Open Source" vs. > >>>> "Open-Source" vs. "OpenSource" is quite controversial. Far > >>>> less is (or: seems to me) controversial in English and so the > >>>> spelling "open-source" caught my eye. > >>>> > >>>> but you make it soooo complicated. > >>> > >>> No, I don't do that ... > >> > >> I think you don't imagine how your mails come across to > >> others and how > >> the mails could be understood by others. > > > > Thanks for this hint > > > >>> Did you really think it was right to accuse me of "provocation"(?) > >> > >> That is my feeling when I read your mail. > > > > How can I avoid this impression without giving up my opinion? > > > > What I see as a problem is something completely different, > namely that there is less and less joint discussion, but the > discussion is replaced by "deals", which are called 'I don't > criticize your actions if you don't criticize my actions' ... > but this leads to a juxtaposition and to mediocrity (imho). > > > > I myself perceive criticism as something constructive, as > something that lays the foundation for improvement and not as > something negative. > > it starts with the mail subject: > > There is no need to change
I did _not_ change the subject, but opened a new topic. (If I had changed the subject I would have used "was:...") And I did this because in other places, I am regularly asked to open new threads in case of doubt, in order not to mix up anything. (By the way, if we want to discuss questions of netiquette, I would be very glad, because the compliance with general netiquette on this list here is very bad. e.g. the list is drowning in "tofu" in places so that an efficient use is not possible.) > With your formulation "So you think it is in the interest of the ASF > ..." you imply that someone declines to correct an error and > therefore > is doing something bad. I ask (indirectly) whether the person believes to have made a mistake at all. > " > I suggest to change the text of "open-source" in the logo to > remove the > dash as I think it's a spelling error. OK, I can understand that > I'm not a native > speaker but when > looking at other places in other ASF projects it looks like > it should be > "open source". > > Furthermore, when searching at Google: > "open source has 158,000,00 hits > "open-source has just 3,570,00 hits > " > > Yes, it's longer than yours. However, it delivers also some facts. Und because I have listed other facts I am now criticized (="However, it delivers also some facts.") for not having listed any facts? (What was my fact --> The explanation of the difference between adjective and non-adjective use of "open-source".) > The ASF doesn't care if there is a spelling error in texts > that one of > their countless projects is doing. J really? I think that unity makes us strong and that a little uniformity in formal things also underlines that we all feel as part of the ASF community. However, I will try to discuss exactly this detail to find out what the general opinion is about it within the ASF community. (This is why I asked for the 'mailing list for all projects'). Jörg --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@openoffice.apache.org
