Sounds nice. It would be great to have a debug output that can be checked to check which dependencies have been pulled. For me a declarative output would be cool to understand some code.
Also do you have an idea how to handle IDLs with scon? That would be awesome. All the best Peter Am 9. Februar 2020 09:51:06 MEZ schrieb Damjan Jovanovic <dam...@apache.org>: >I've implemented static libraries, added linker version scripts, and >made >some cleanups, and 22 modules can now be converted to SCons (up from 19 >a >week ago). > >AllLangResTarget is the next big target, and it seems exceptionally >complicated, with 3 layers of intermediate targets: .src >--(transex3)--> >.src --(rsc)--> .src --(cat)--> .srs --(rsc)--> .res per language in >AllLangResTarget, with transex3 being skipped when not building >translations. Since the .src can #include C headers, they will need a >custom dependency scanner, in addition to the custom builder that all >custom targets need, plus of course delivery rules. Fortunately, as >it's >Python, we have some flexibility as to how to implement it. > >On Sun, Feb 2, 2020 at 2:31 AM Damjan Jovanovic <dam...@apache.org> >wrote: > >> Hi >> >> I've just pushed a "scons-build" branch. >> >> The build infrastructure is in main/scons. Python and SCons have to >be >> installed system-wide and available in $PATH. Currently we require >Python >> 3, but that's easy to change. >> >> So far main/fileaccess has been converted to SCons as a test. Its >gbuild >> files are still there; prj/makefile.mk determines whether to use >gbuild >> or scons. SCons is only used at a module level, build.pl is still the >> launcher. You can build main/fileaccess in isolation by running >"scons" >> inside main/, or "scons -u" inside main/fileaccess, and clean by >adding >> "-c" (or "--clean") to those flags. It will correctly build the .cxx >file, >> link it into a library, install the library, run xsltproc on the >.component >> file, install the transformed .component file, and install the .xml >file. >> Everything can also be successfully cleaned. >> >> At present FreeBSD has been tested, and I will test Windows soon. >Other >> platforms don't exist, and still have to be added in >> main/site_scons/platform. >> >> The converter is in gotoGBuild/, at the same level as main/ and >test/. You >> build it with Maven by running "mvn package". Then: >> >> java -cp target/classes >org.apache.openoffice.gotoSCons.GBuildConverter >> parsingAnalysis ../main >> Attempts to parse each gbuild module, printing out errors for those >that >> couldn't be, and a summary of which could be parsed. >> What is also useful is: >> java -cp target/classes >org.apache.openoffice.gotoSCons.GBuildConverter >> parsingAnalysis ../main 2>&1 | grep java.lang.Exception > >> /tmp/errorsByModule.csv >> Then open /tmp/errorsByModule.csv in AOO, use # as the field >separator, >> and you get a table of modules that failed and a reason for each one. >Sort >> by column B, and you can see how often a reason occurs, for example >21 >> modules need AllLangResTarget implemented. That can inform further >> development. >> >> To actually convert a module to SCons, use one of the modules that >> previous results said could be parsed, eg. io, and run: >> java -cp target/classes >org.apache.openoffice.gotoSCons.GBuildConverter >> parseModule ../main/io/Module_io.mk >> It will print the converted SCons file to standard output. >> >> Converting library names is currently broken. In main/fileaccess and >> main/site_scons I've begun with dmake's way of naming libraries, like >in >> main/solenv/inc/libs.mk. GBuild re-did library naming by using 10 >> layer-specific rules, and then having tons of exceptions in >> main/RepositoryFixes.mk; I am not sure which is worse. Maybe we >should give >> up the pretense, and just have a table in a CSV file, with platforms >as >> column headers, and library names as row headers, with the >> platform-specific name in each field, and parse it with Python's >built-in >> CSV package on build startup? >> >> >> >> On Sat, Feb 1, 2020 at 8:10 PM Peter Kovacs <pe...@apache.org> wrote: >> >>> Hi Damjan, >>> >>> Let's try it. But I suggest to push to an own branch. There is no >worth >>> in trying and getting stuck in the same spot. >>> >>> Merge is done quickly. And it is great if others can have a look, >too. >>> >>> All the best >>> Peter >>> >>> >>> Am 1. Februar 2020 13:36:42 MEZ schrieb Damjan Jovanovic < >>> dam...@apache.org>: >>> >Hi >>> > >>> >gbuild has become an unmaintainable nightmare. While there are only >37 >>> >internal dmake modules left (+ another 37 external modules), I >cannot >>> >motivate myself to convert even 1 more. At my development speed of >>> >about 2 >>> >lines of code every 8 hours, gbuild is a disaster that wastes >>> >unbelievable >>> >amounts of time, and it's really not a development I can say I am >proud >>> >of. >>> >It has the ugliest syntax ever, it can only be debugged through >>> >experimentation, and nobody really understands it. Also, it doesn't >>> >fully >>> >work, eg. a lot of the newer targets I've added don't get cleaned >on >>> >"make >>> >clean", CustomTarget fails to deliver files sometimes, etc. >>> > >>> >To that end, I've restarting playing with an old idea: to switch to >the >>> >SCons build system, using a tool to automatically convert build >files >>> >from >>> >gbuild to SCons. >>> > >>> >I got my previous scons build (of 1 module) up and running very >>> >quickly, >>> >and it still works. Then I continued development of my gbuild >parser >>> >and >>> >automated converter, which I've called gotoSCons, and got it to >parse >>> >most >>> >of the build instructions in Module_xxx.mk, Library_xxx.mk, >>> >Executable_xxx.mk and Package_xxx.mk and convert them to a SCons >build >>> >file >>> >(SConscript). >>> > >>> >gotoSCons is relatively simple, about 1200 lines of Java, and I can >>> >provide >>> >it to interested parties, or put it in a Git branch. It already >found 3 >>> >bugs in these gbuild files: >>> >1. main/xmloff/Package_inc.mk duplicates this line: >>> >$(eval $(call >>> >>> >>gb_Package_add_file,xmloff_inc,inc/xmloff/XMLTextShapeImportHelper.hxx,xmloff/XMLTextShapeImportHelper.hxx)) >>> >I've committed a fix in 85bfc14eebba4af4847075b1cf1eaecfa87bcfc4 >>> >2. main/bean/Module_bean.mk adds no targets. >>> >3. main/testgraphical/Module_testgraphical.mk does nothing. >>> > >>> >The gotoSCons parser is very strict, it tries hard to guarantee a >>> >correct >>> >conversion, and will immediately fail on non-deterministic >sections, >>> >such >>> >as "ifeq ($(OS),WNT)". It will also immediately fail on deliverable >>> >types >>> >that I haven't implemented yet, such as AllLangResTarget_, >>> >StaticLibrary_ >>> >etc., and commands within targets that I haven't implemented yet >such >>> >as >>> >gb_Executable_set_targettype_gui and gb_Library_use_externals. Out >of >>> >our >>> >total of 105 gbuild modules, 53 use non-deterministic sections, and >>> >will >>> >require some degree of manual conversion, but the converter should >>> >eventually be able to handle the other 52 modules. Even with the >>> >limited >>> >deliverable/command support at present, it can successfully convert >19 >>> >modules. The conversion would be straightforward even if done >manually, >>> >as >>> >both gbuild and SCons are high level build systems with similar >>> >concepts: >>> >includes, defines, cflags, libraries to link to, and so on (dmake >is >>> >the >>> >difficult low-level tool). >>> > >>> >I love SCons. It's been easy integrating it into our build. It just >>> >works. >>> >It has beautiful clear syntax. It's understandable and debuggable. >It >>> >makes >>> >development fun again. It's a well established build system, with a >20 >>> >year >>> >history, supporting Python 2 and 3, supporting almost every >platform >>> >out >>> >there including OS/2, supporting every version of MSVC including >Visual >>> >Studio 2019, supporting advanced features like ELF sonames, library >>> >version >>> >symlinks and library name prefixes and suffixes, flex and bison >targets >>> >(which we all need), automatically generating cleaning targets for >>> >every >>> >build target, can use checksums instead of timestamps to avoid >>> >unnecessary >>> >rebuilds, automatic header dependency extraction, can build a >module by >>> >itself instead of the whole project, parallelizes building at a >file >>> >level >>> >(across module boundaries). It can build at least some AOO modules >>> >without >>> >Cygwin. It is easy to add custom targets, unlike gbuild where it's >>> >almost >>> >impossible. It is equal to or better than gbuild in just about >>> >everything, >>> >and we don't have to maintain it going forward like we do with >gbuild: >>> >its >>> >developers develop it, and we just use it. >>> > >>> >If someone would like to get involved, please let me know soon, so >we >>> >can >>> >decide on an API, file layout, etc. before I've begun committing >any >>> >changes (and relax, they would be committed to a separate branch >until >>> >we >>> >are convinced it works well). >>> > >>> >I was the major force that led us into more gbuild, but now I think >>> >it's >>> >time to leave it. It's already coming apart at the seams, and I >don't >>> >see >>> >it being developed further. It's based on ($eval), an optional >extra >>> >added >>> >quite late, as an afterthought for special cases, probably not how >GNU >>> >make >>> >was intended to be used at scale, and a feature absent in other >>> >"make"s. >>> >The only other project in the world that uses gbuild is LO, and I >>> >recall >>> >reading how it took them an enormous amount of work to migrate to >it >>> >fully. >>> >Let's learn from their mistake? >>> > >>> >Regards >>> >Damjan >>> >>
