Niltze [Hello], Peter- On Mon, Aug 21, 2017 at 7:08 AM, Peter kovacs <pe...@apache.org> wrote: > Jose, > > Why do you say non-freedom respecting 'Debian Desktop' LibreOffice dependency?
If during Debian installation an user selects GNOME -based 'Debian desktop environment', (please see pic in long link below) < https://metztli.it/blog/media/blogs/ixiptli/quick-uploads/p121/nanahuahuatl-2016-03-18_22-31-19.jpg > it will download LibreOffice -- as the meta-package has artificial dependence on LibreOffice. Moreover, after the debian installation completes successfully, if the user wants to purge LibreOffice, action will also remove critical GNOME component(s) that will eventually cause software incompatibility issues with the 'Debian desktop environment'; in other words, purging LibreOffice breaks desktop GUI and GDM3. It can be easily verfified at: < https://packages.debian.org/stretch/gnome-core > If you look at the source: < http://http.debian.net/debian/pool/main/m/meta-gnome3/meta-gnome3_3.22+3.tar.xz > after expanding it, grep control and control.in: grep -i libreoffice meta-gnome3-3.22+3/debian/control* meta-gnome3-3.22+3/debian/control: libreoffice-evolution, meta-gnome3-3.22+3/debian/control: libreoffice-gnome, meta-gnome3-3.22+3/debian/control: libreoffice-writer, meta-gnome3-3.22+3/debian/control: libreoffice-calc, meta-gnome3-3.22+3/debian/control: libreoffice-impress, meta-gnome3-3.22+3/debian/control.in: libreoffice-evolution, meta-gnome3-3.22+3/debian/control.in: libreoffice-gnome, meta-gnome3-3.22+3/debian/control.in: libreoffice-writer, meta-gnome3-3.22+3/debian/control.in: libreoffice-calc, meta-gnome3-3.22+3/debian/control.in: libreoffice-impress, dependency is totally *artificial* since the 'Debian desktop environment' can be perfectly built without forcing LibreOffice on the user. As a matter of fact, it could ask the user whether s/he wants Apache OpenOffice OR no office suite at all -- if the Debian devs so desired. Of course it is possible to rebuild the above package after stripping references to LibreOffice and it will succeed. After the user merely installs minimally two(2) generated DEB replacements: gnome_3.22+3.1_amd64.deb gnome-core_3.22+3.1_amd64.deb (my built replacements above have a .1 above debian official LibreOffice equivalents) < https://sourceforge.net/projects/metztli-reiser4/files/No-LibreOffice-dependency_GNOME/ > s/he can purge LibreOffice *without* breaking her 'Debian desktop environment' GUI nor GDM3. Notwithstanding, it is no trivial task to rebuild package without references to LibreOffice. I produced the above components when Debian Stretch was released and had to satisfy build procedure by installing dependencies for 'Debian desktop environment': accerciser adwaita-icon-theme aisleriot alacarte anacron anjuta anjuta-extras at-spi2-core avahi-daemon baobab bijiben brasero caribou caribou-antler cdbs cheese cups-pk-helper dconf-gsettings-backend dconf-tools debhelper desktop-base devhelp empathy eog evince evolution evolution-data-server evolution-plugins file-roller five-or-more fonts-cantarell four-in-a-row gdm3 gedit gedit-plugins gimp gitg gkbd-capplet glade glib-networking gnome-api-docs gnome-backgrounds gnome-bluetooth gnome-boxes gnome-calculator gnome-chess gnome-clocks gnome-color-manager gnome-contacts gnome-control-center gnome-core gnome-devel-docs gnome-dictionary gnome-disk-utility gnome-documents gnome-font-viewer gnome-games gnome-getting-started-docs gnome-keyring gnome-klotski gnome-logs gnome-mahjongg gnome-maps gnome-menus gnome-mines gnome-music gnome-nettool gnome-nibbles gnome-online-accounts gnome-online-miners gnome-orca gnome-packagekit gnome-photos gnome-pkg-tools gnome-robots gnome-screenshot gnome-session gnome-settings-daemon gnome-shell gnome-shell-extensions gnome-shell-extension-weather gnome-sound-recorder gnome-sudoku gnome-sushi gnome-system-log gnome-system-monitor gnome-terminal gnome-tetravex gnome-themes-standard gnome-tweak-tool gnome-user-guide gnome-user-share goobox gsettings-desktop-schemas gstreamer1.0-doc gstreamer1.0-libav gstreamer1.0-plugins-base gstreamer1.0-plugins-good gstreamer1.0-plugins-ugly gstreamer1.0-pulseaudio gtk2-engines gtk-doc-tools gucharmap gvfs-backends gvfs-bin gvfs-fuse hamster-applet hitori iagno iceweasel inkscape libatk1.0-dbg libatk1.0-dev libatk1.0-doc libatk-adaptor libcairo2-doc libcanberra-doc libcanberra-pulse libcaribou-gtk3-module libcaribou-gtk-module libclutter-1.0-dbg libclutter-1.0-dev libclutter-1.0-doc libclutter-gtk-1.0-dbg libclutter-gtk-1.0-dev libclutter-gtk-1.0-doc libcogl20-dbg libcogl-dev libcogl-doc libcogl-pango20-dbg libgail-3-0-dbg libgail-3-doc libgail-dbg libgail-doc libgdk-pixbuf2.0-dev libgdk-pixbuf2.0-doc libglib2.0-0-dbg libglib2.0-dev libglib2.0-doc libgstreamer1.0-0-dbg libgstreamer1.0-dev libgtk2.0-0-dbg libgtk2.0-dev libgtk2.0-doc libgtk2-perl libgtk-3-0-dbg libgtk-3-common libgtk-3-dev libgtk-3-doc libgtksourceview-3.0-dev libgtksourceview-3.0-doc libnotify-doc libpam-gnome-keyring libpango1.0-0-dbg libpango1.0-dev libpango1.0-doc libtelepathy-glib-doc libxml2-doc lightsoff metacity mousetweaks nautilus nautilus-sendto nemiver network-manager-gnome polari policykit-1-doc policykit-1-gnome pulseaudio quadrapassel rhythmbox rhythmbox-plugin-cdrecorder rhythmbox-plugins rygel-playbin rygel-tracker seahorse simple-scan sound-theme-freedesktop swell-foop tali telepathy-gabble telepathy-rakia telepathy-salut totem totem-plugins tracker-gui transmission-gtk vinagre vino xdg-user-dirs-gtk yelp yelp-tools zenity *and* then generate the DEB component replacements. >>Built from source: >>< http://svn.apache.org/repos/asf/openoffice/branches/AOO414 > >> >>On Debian Stretch for AMD64 (after purging non-freedom respecting >>'Debian Desktop' LibreOffice dependency) >>< http://www.enlightenment.org/ss/e-599ad194853a53.25100016.jpg > >> >> >>Best Professional Regards > Hope that answers your question. 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