Hello Jörg,

I personally believe that the certificate policy is common business
phrasing. I think it is a good business style to talk positively or not at
all of organisations. You never know what relation ship these people are in.
And worse thing that can happen is that you damage your own renown. Just
think of our libre trolls. They have damaged libre office renown for me in
such a great extent that I do not want to support Libre Office project,
without some commitments from their side. And maybe that's true for them
too.

I would really like to see this spiral of fighting ends. I don't like the
trolls on our Mailing list, trying to steal our freedom, choice and fun.
A cooperation would be nice. The oowiki seems like a good neutral ground to
start.
I am not part of oowiki, but i would really appreciate if it is tryed to
normalize the relationship and not harden up (what's currently happening)
In the end it will only damage both projects.
And from the outside there is a whish that both projects improve their
relationship.

All the best
Peter

Simos Xenitellis <simos.li...@googlemail.com> schrieb am Di., 9. Mai 2017,
08:24:

> On Tue, May 9, 2017 at 8:32 AM, Jörg Schmidt <joe...@j-m-schmidt.de>
> wrote:
> > Hello,
> >
> >> From: Thorsten Behrens [mailto:t...@libreoffice.org]
> >
> >> I think at the time of your posting, that topic was somewhat on
> >> hold/stalled. Being 2 months late to a discussion sometimes gets you
> >> no reaction, simply because noone has anything to add (you were
> >> already referencing the original libreoffice de-discuss thread).
> >
> > I think we both know that the reasons are others.
> >
> >> If openoffice.info wants to be a stakeholder, we can certainly include
> >> you (or other reps) in the technical discussions.
> >
> > No thanks. de.openoffice.info is an independent forum.
> >
> >> Perhaps an option to discuss further details would be the upcoming
> >> community meeting of the LibreOffice DE-project (probably on the
> >> weekend June 25th, location TBD)? Let me know if you'd like to be kept
> >> in the loop there.
> >
> > Thanks, but I'm working for Apache OpenOffice. For my voluntary work
> that is
> > enough for me.
> >
> > But please do not worry, professionally, I also provide support for
> LibreOffice.
> >
> > Maybe I would also like to be a participant in the LibreOffice
> Certification
> > Program, but I am a free spirit and prerequisites such as a) in:
> >
> http://www.documentfoundation.org/assets/Certification/tdf-certificationcodeofcond
> > uct.pdf
> >
> > are unfortunately too political for me.
>
> There are four reasonable points in this PDF. Which one would make it
> "too political" for you?
>
> Simos
>
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