Hi,

> On 14 Sep 15, at 20:13, Pedro Giffuni <p...@apache.org> wrote:
> 
> Hi Bruce;
> 
> I just looked a bit ...
> Calligra does look nice and I see it has advanced quite nicely.
> 
> There's probably still the issue of multi-platform support but it
> is certainly refreshing to see something different.

I’ve played around a lot with KOffice, Calligra, and on Linux (KDE) and wished 
I could use, without encountering the inevitable crash, the durn things on OS 
X. I think Calligra is great. I love the modularity, love their support of ODF, 
but wish it were more complete, though it’s frankly good enough. At the Orvieto 
conference, Inge W., who then led the KOffice team, described the challenges of 
modularizing the previously monolithic code and making it modular. Far more 
successful than Mozilla’s efforts, the team succeeded in its goal. At the time, 
I was hopeful that the same dedication could be applied to OO. Certainly, there 
were at least two competing architectures to the one we had. But history….

And now KDE and Calligra. One has to wonder, however good the application was, 
is and will be, how relevant is it? (Yes, I am aware this query applies as well 
to AOO and all children of OOo.) Another way of putting that query, I suppose, 
would be, What makes for a relevant suite or set of related applications? I 
think the obvious answer is something like, "It works with what we’ve got," and 
"It’s easy to integrate into what we’re thinking about getting."

I would further nuance that with, 

* Let’s focus on public sector use. Open government practices are making more 
and more documents accessible to the public. These can use PDF but for 
necessarily interactive ones, the choice can be OOXML, HTML, ODF

        * Archival usage
        * Education (for students, by professors/teachers, by admin)

Desired features of all such (and also a raging buzzword, rather ill-defined): 
Collaboration.

Right now, I don’t think it’s simply about not spending money poorly. I rather 
think it’s about anticipating use cases and remaining flexible both as a 
productive environment and as a product.

Louis


> 
> Thanks,
> 
> Pedro.
> 
> On 09/14/15 17:18, Pedro Giffuni wrote:
>> Hello;
>> 
>> This may sound controversial, and is indeed just IMHO, but I am afraid
>> that the general Office-suite marketplace is stuck and people shouldn't
>> expect much more from it.
>> 


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