On Fri, Feb 20, 2015 at 11:18 AM, jan i <j...@apache.org> wrote:

> On 20 February 2015 at 13:16, Alexandro Colorado <j...@oooes.org> wrote:
>
> > On Fri, Feb 20, 2015 at 4:48 AM, jan i <j...@apache.org> wrote:
> >
> > > On 20 February 2015 at 01:46, Dennis E. Hamilton <
> > dennis.hamil...@acm.org>
> > > wrote:
> > >
> > > > +1
> > > >
> > > > Nice idea and great attention to progressive staging.
> > > >
> > > >  - Dennis
> > > >
> > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > From: acolor...@gmail.com [mailto:acolor...@gmail.com] On Behalf Of
> > > > Alexandro Colorado
> > > > Sent: Thursday, February 19, 2015 14:41
> > > > To: dev
> > > > Subject: Updating the wiki theme.
> > > >
> > > > I would like to update the wiki theme to the one that we use on the
> > > > homepage. ATM the wiki theme uses the very old OpenOffice.org, we are
> > > going
> > > > 4-5 years in Apache and still have the same look and feel. I would
> like
> > > to
> > > > get a new theme on the wiki for current style.
> > > >
> > > Did you find the sources you need, otherwise drop me an email, and I
> will
> > > copy it to you directly.
> > >
> > >
> > > >
> > > > First step should be to 'create' a theme that can be hacked and
> tested.
> > > > Then change it to the default by the wiki admin. The old wiki would
> > still
> > > > be available and enabled by users that preffer the old one, but new
> > theme
> > > > could become the default once reaching a functional style.
> > > >
> > >
> > > I am not soo keen to have multiple themes active on our production
> wiki,
> > I
> > > spent quite some time removing all other themes than the AOO one.
> Having
> > > multiple themes gives 2 problems:
> > > - a security problem, if we are not very careful (I will not detail
> this)
> > > - a graphic layout problem, it turns out our setup is very sensitive to
> > > small changes like another font, and some of the pages tilt when you do
> > > that.
> > >
> > > You should also be aware that in order to keep our current theme
> > running, I
> > > needed to patch some of the core code of mediawiki, it would be nice
> if a
> > > new them could avoid that.
> > >
> > > I suggest you make yourself a test instance of mediawiki (I can provide
> > > what you need of setup info, incl. a dump of the SQL), develop your
> > theme,
> > > once you have it, make a couple of screenshot and get acceptance in
> here.
> > >
> > > Once it is accepted I am happy to take it, verify it, and install it on
> > the
> > > production system.
> > >
> > > Sounds like a plan to you ?
> > >
> >
> > ​Well that's an issue since like you specify this code is not 'generic'
> so
> > I wont have details of what it needs to be applied to the production
> wiki.
> >
> Well you do need a test installation anyway, where you test your code.
>
> >
> > I would rather access a snapshot, or a duplicated VM temporarily until
> the
> > work is done. However the development would be done in a closed fashion
> > which is not the ideal scenario.
> >
> Infra cannot provide a temporary VM just for this purpose, making that
> would include DNS, LDAP, Puppet so at least the work of a little day.
>
> I can (as I already suggested) provide you a SQL dump. I can also dump the
> application, allthough it will most likely not run on your vm, due to
> dependencies of a number of other programs.
>
> May I suggest, that you make a naked installation of mediawiki somewhere,
> build the theme, and let me put it on production. There are basically no
> need to have our pretty complex production environment just to make a new
> theme.
>
> Last time I worked with the theme, I did it exactly like that.
>
>
> > Also would be nice if you could detailed the most obvious pitfalls to
> know
> > how to get around it. The reason why you need to change code is mainly
> > because Monowiki theme also suffered version changes, and our original
> > theme was based of an older version of the monowiki theme. This scenario
> is
> > kind of unaviodable, unless is started from scratch.
> >
>
> You might be right about the version changes, but I am not convinced, since
> I had the same problems when I tried to update the theme code.
>
> I cannot detail the pitfalls for 2 good reasons:
> - I have forgotten most of what I did (it is in svn) and why I did it
> - Most of the things I simply did with try-test methods, I tried at that
> time not to understand too much of why the theme was so mega complex.
>
> I think we would benefit from a clean theme based on the newest version.
>

​BTW I found this Changelog from the Wiki which I guess it needs to be
updated/reviewed:
https://wiki.openoffice.org/wiki/MediaWiki_Configuration



>
> rgds
> jan i.
>
> >
> >
> >
> > >
> > > rgds
> > > jan i.
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > >
> > > > Please comment.
> > > >
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> > > > Alexandro Colorado
> > > > Apache OpenOffice Contributor
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