On Sunday, December 14, 2014, Andrea Pescetti <pesce...@apache.org> wrote:

> On 10/12/2014 21:09, Louis Suárez-Potts wrote:
>
>> On 10 Dec2014, at 15:01, Andrea Pescetti wrote:
>>> Note that FOSDEM talks have a requirement to be technical. ...
>>>
>> Right; but at the same time, there are other options besides talks
>>
>
> Sure. This only holds for talks in devrooms, as I just confirmed with the
> organizers (but again, the call I mentioned is about talks for the Open
> Document Editors devroom, deadline today).
>
>  and, besides, there are groups on licensing and metrics
>>
>
> Talks about licensing can be submitted to the dedicated devroom (again,
> confirmed with organizers).

Andrea, Louis please thus is not the sequel to "scotty beam me up". Please
try to understand whats written instead of turning the words into a law.

I bet a bottle of wine, served in brussels Saturday  evening, that your
intentions are similar or even identical.

>
>  … and just saw that Simon echoed my point re Bitergia.
>>
>
> It a separate event the day before FOSDEM. It's not part of FOSDEM, it has
> nothing to do with talks in the Open Documents Editors devroom.
>
>  Good idea, btw, to look at what is already accepted rather
>> than accept defeat before any venture, no?
>>
>
> Whatever way you want to see it, I can only confirm that talks in the Open
> Documents Editors devroom have to be technical and follow the guidelines in
> https://blogs.apache.org/OOo/entry/call_for_talks_open_document ; I find
> non-technical talks equally interesting (I gave two non-technical talks
> myself during ApacheCon), but they are not for this devroom. Obviously, I'm
> very open to both technical and non-technical discussions at any moment
> during FOSDEM; these guidelines must be respected for the devroom talks
> since these are the house rules, but for the rest we'll be free to discuss
> everything!



I expect to be there Saturday afternoon, what prohibits us or you to have
TALKS in contradiction to presentations.

Dont misunderstand me, and no need to flame me (I have filtered that), I
think Louis has some good intentions, and I know for sure that andrea is
trying hard to get our boat in smooth waters again, so please stop arguing
and start planning.

Who will reach out and plan a meeting at FOSDEM....do we know who from LO
will be present.


Sorry for this somewhat direct  email, let it be known that I highly
respect both Andrea and Louis, but it makes me sad to see a fight instead
of a cooperation. We (AOO) have done enough of explaining who we are, now
its high time to start showing that we can move things.

See you all at FOSDEM and ApcaheCON NA.
jan


ps. yes I did submit a talk, and yes it will contain some personal views on
LO/AOO/corintha market positions.

>
> Regards,
>   Andrea.
>
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