jan i wrote:
> On 24 November 2014 at 13:14, Andrea Pescetti <pesce...@apache.org> wrote:
> 
>> jan i wrote:
>>
>>> Ideally we should have 2-3 admins for our wiki. When I look at the logs, I
>>> cannot see any admin actions over the last couple of months, and when I
>>> look  at some of the new pages, I believe we are getting spammed again.
>>>
>>
>> I create MWiki accounts on a regular basis (from the web interface). So at
>> least that activity should be visible. If you see spam, can you send some
>> links?
>>
> I saw that activity, but I had expected activity deleting pages etc. When I
> last maintained the servers, pages was deleted more or less weekly by a
> couple of people.
> 
> 
>>
>>  Ideally we should have 1-2 admin pr national/language forum. Currently
>>> most
>>> forums seems to be without a admin, even the EN forum does not seem to
>>> have
>>> regular admin activity. Bear in mind though, I cannot judge how much admin
>>> work is needed on the forums.
>>>
>>
>> I understand that it can be painful to do so, but the fact that "most
>> forums seem to be without an admin" is scary enough that it's worth to
>> understand it better. Without looking at every single detail, do you have a
>> couple of examples like "on the Italian forum there is one admin and that
>> admin hasn't posted in 6 months"? (This is an example, I know that the
>> current admin is active).
>>
>> What I would like to understand is if we do not have admins, or we have
>> admins who never log in, or we have incompetent admins (that is, these
>> people are active but you see badly administered forums).
>>
> I did not go as far as to check the admin bit in the user table, I simply
> took a look at the logs for admin entries. I dont think we have incompetent
> admins, and I dont know how often they login or post.
> 
> 
>>
>> Also note that most day-to-day admin activity on the EN forum is done by
>> the forum moderators, not by the forum administrators.
>>
> As I wrote I am not familiar with the admin job on a forum, so maybe the
> lack of activity I see is normal.
> 
>>
>>  My intention is to keep the admins and the vm-admins updated before
>>> planned
>>> actions happen as well as this list in case of planned outages, so they
>>> can
>>> take appropriate action.
>>>
>>
>> This is an excellent idea. Actually, can we extract e-mails from all
>> admins and put them together somewhere? If I still have the needed access,
>> I can take care of it. Fact is, I'm not sure that all admins follow this
>> list (and this should be fixed). Missing that, it's probably better to
>> contact them personally, or through an alias, as you wish.
>>
> I understood that there is a special mailing list for that kind of activity
> ?
> 
> 
>>
>>  Making forums read-only is pretty easy, its a matter of disabling login
>>> and
>>> not allow anonymous posting. But then I will also ask the these forums are
>>> removed from the daily backup cycle.
>>>
>>
>> Sounds perfect to me. I guess Hagar's concern is the same as mine, i.e.,
>> useful content should not be put offline. We can add a prominent note
>> saying that the forum is archived and that if someone is willing to
>> moderate it they can write to the dev list.
>>
> Somebody who knows how, need to add that...I think its a brilliant idea, if
> is html that needs to be uploaded I can take care of that part.
> 
> 
>>
>> And if I haven't written about this yet, thanks for being available to
>> take care of our VMs!
>>
> Np, please remember the logistic is not yet in place, hopefully the infra
> staff will soon find time to make it happen.
> 
> rgds
> jan i.
> 
> 
>>
>> Regards,
>>   Andrea.
>>
>>
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> 
Jan;

I currently have some admin privileges on the mwiki and do use them to
primarily create new accounts for volunteers to the Documentation team.

Regards
Keith


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