Hi,
On 09.10.2014 23:53, Regina Henschel wrote:
Hi Dennis,
comments below.
Dennis E. Hamilton schrieb:
Hi Regina,
<orcnote> below,
-----Original Message-----
From: Regina Henschel [mailto:rb.hensc...@t-online.de]
Sent: Thursday, October 9, 2014 08:34
To: AOO dev
Subject: Complex content inside shapes
Hi all,
LibreOffice has implemented the ability for complex content in shapes. I
would not bother you with this, but it will result in requests for
ODF1.3. Therefore I ask you to have a look and help me to form an
opinion.
[1] http://vmiklos.hu/blog/textbox.html
[2]
https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/ReleaseNotes/4.4#Shapes_can_have_a_TextBox
[3] https://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=70942
[4]
http://lists.freedesktop.org/archives/libreoffice/2014-October/063831.html
<orcnote>
Can you say more on how you think this is already possible
in ODF 1.2 without any required change? Or are you saying
there is an implementation-defined case already available
under ODF 1.2?
In the second case, it would seem simpler to agree on a
shared implementation-defined (and public) definition than
to expect incorporation in a new ODF specification. For one
thing, that doesn't do anything for ODF 1.2-conforming documents.
Did the LibreOffice extension presume to reuse an OASIS namespace
or was it done properly with a well-defined foreign extension?
(1)
I became aware of the problem with
https://issues.oasis-open.org/browse/OFFICE-3864. In the meantime the
developer found another way to track, whether the shape has "complex"
content. So the request for a new attribute has been (or will be?)
canceled. But he is not really satisfied with the solution.
(2)
When a custom shape contains a table then LibreOffice currently writes e.g.
<draw:custom-shape ...>
<table:table...>
...
</table>
<text:p ...>
...
</text:p>
<draw:enhanced-geometry ...>
...
</draw:custom-shape>
This solution is not valid in ODF1.2. A construction of the kind
<draw:custom-shape>
...
<text:p>
<draw:frame>
<table:table>
...
</table:table>
</draw:frame>
</text:p>
...
</draw:custom-shape>
would be valid.
In normal texts <table:table> and <text:p> are both allowed as child of
<office:text>. Here a <table:table> element in a <draw:frame> has a
different meaning, because its outside the text flow. But inside a shape
the table is already outside the text flow and putting it into a
<draw:frame> would not add restrictions.
The comment of the developer is in
https://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=84714#c1. He suggests to
write loext:table till the proposal of <table:table> as child of
<draw:custom-shape> is accepted. He dislikes "fake" use of
<text:p><draw:frame> as wrapper. In addition he mentioned in the
discussion [4] on the mailing list, that because LibreOffice (and same
OpenOffice) use a SAX parser, it can not easily be detected, whether
elements exist or not exists in a sub-tree of the XML tree. I'm not able
to judge this.
Is the idea to allow <table:table> as child of <draw:custom-shape> and
other shapes worth supporting?
Just a short feedback regarding the ODF without having gone through the
details:
As <draw:custom-shape> already allows <text:p> and <text:list> as childs
I currently do not see an objection to not allow <table:table>, too.
This should be discussed in the OASIS ODF TC and I am sure that soon a
corresponding discussion will be started from one of the LibreOffice/TDF
representatives.
Best regards, Oliver.
P.S.: I will be on vacation from 2014-10-11 until 2014-10-27
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