Am 07/12/2014 10:10 PM, schrieb Tal Daniel:
I reordered the language list, and fixed the spacing to line separator.

looks good.

Have you seen already that the current sorting looks a bit incomplete? The languages with latin characters should be sorted via their native names and the non-latin languages maybe via ISO code.

Then the visible order is perfect.

Take into account that styles may change in the future, as there are
requests to use Bootstrap library, or sorts.

I hope so. :-)

Marcus



On Thu, Jul 10, 2014 at 12:42 AM, Marcus (OOo)<marcus.m...@wtnet.de>  wrote:

Am 07/09/2014 02:30 PM, schrieb Andrea Pescetti:

  On 08/07/2014 Tal Daniel wrote:

Regarding the ORDER of languages, we have a tie. Should we take that to a
VOTE? --


No need to. It's a minor thing. I think that the bottom line is: sort by
something that is visible and sort in a way that a native speaker of a
language based on a non-Latin alphabet would find normal. So long as it
has a logic, I'm fine with that and I think others will be too.


+1
Whatever the sorting will look like, it has to be traceable for the user.


  Indeed here there are different conventions around, for example
http://www.microsoft.com/en-us/locale.aspx (just to pick one with a long
list, but any "corporate" site will do) lists all Latin first, then
Greek, Cyrillic and others, by alphabet. While


wow, that must be a nearly complete list. ;-)

I've done some more researching and found the following website with the
same sorting rule:

- Youtube (see footer)
- Facebook (see header)
- Google+ (see footer)
- Twitter (see header)

All sort first via Latin, then Cyrillic, then Arabic, then Indian, then
Far-East.

So, the bigger and most known websites seem to have a common sorting.


  http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Computer for some reason puts Hebrew
between "Italiano" and "Basa Jawa" (does this sound "natural" to you?).


Of course, it's again the sorting via ISO codes. Just have a look into the
HTML code: :-P

it - Italiano
he - Hebrew
jv - Basa Jawa

But to answer your (rhetorical ;-) ) question: No, I would expect a more
visible and therefore reasonable sorting.

BTW:
It's the same for Mozilla (see the language button in the footer). Even
when the visible result is different to Wikipedia.


  We also expose ISO codes, so sorting by codes could be a way to make it
simpler. Whatever works best for you, Tal, will probably work for us too!


@Tal:

Finally:

It seems the common sorting rule is first via Latin, then Cyrillic, then
Arabic, then Indian, then Far-East (more or less this way as I cannot
interprete every character set of this world).

So, I would suggest to sort this way, too.

And yes, I know that I wrote something different in my previous mails. But
after looking closer on other websites I think I have to change my opinion.

Marcus

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