On 22 Jun 2014, at 19:18, Dennis E. Hamilton <[email protected]> wrote:
> Louis, > > I ended my OASIS membership at renewal time in August 2013. > > I have not submitted any of my current work to the ODF TC or the W3C > change-tracking community group. I occasionally glance at their lists and > the JIRA, just to gauge what is going on. That is all. I will probably use > the comment lists when my investigations uncover anything that might need > repair in an errata. > > In May, I was inspired to look into change-tracking anew when I saw the > interest of the OSB Alliance at > <http://www.osb-alliance.de/en/working-groups/projekte/major-features-in-loaoo/>. > > > Although I had not been thinking about it much, I realized that it is indeed > possible to accomplish what they want by relatively simple repairs to the > current ODF 1.2 approach. I had no interest in responding to the request for > tender, however. > > I did start investigating ODF 1.2 tracked-changes, conducting tedious case > analysis, and developing of a profile that could be used as an extension of > what is already in ODF 1.2 and current implementations. It may well be much > easier to describe than to implement, and that remains to be resolved. If > there is to be implementation, it should be developed in Apache OpenOffice > and thereby available to all other implementations in the openoffice.org > lineage. > > I am unfolding this on a set of web pages. Currently, there is a bare > skeleton, starting at <http://nfoworks.org/notes/2014/05/n140501.htm> and the > other content that is linked to there. All of that work will be conducted in > public and be available under Creative Commons Attribution license. I don't > expect there to be any code, although I foresee a suite of test documents > that do not disturb current software while including the foreign attributes > that support the repairing extensions. > > Coincidentally, I have been encouraged to submit to a forthcoming workshop. > If my submission is accepted, there will be presentation of progress and a > short paper in 3rd Quarter, 2014. > > The work is just starting. Here is an abstract: > > Editing of word-processing documents at the presentation > level, with visible tracking of changes, operates at a > different level of abstraction and granularity than > representation of the document in common document-file > formats. The consequent mismatches are demonstrated using > OpenDocument format provisions for tracked changes. A > selection-copy analogy is introduced for bridging the > abstraction levels while adhering to file-format provisions. > The enhancements improve reliability and interoperability > and are implementable incrementally without obsoleting > current software and documents. > > Here's something I needed so that I could link my analysis to it. It was fun > to figure out how to accomplish in a reliable way: > <http://nfoworks.org/notes/2014/05/n140504f1.htm>. > This is pretty interesting, Dennis! But it makes me wonder. Do we have an updated (that is, current) ODF SDK? (Perhaps out of the ODF Toolkit project?) -louis > -- Dennis E. Hamilton > [email protected] +1-206-779-9430 > https://keybase.io/orcmid PGP F96E 89FF D456 628A > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Louis Suárez-Potts [mailto:[email protected]] > Sent: Sunday, June 22, 2014 01:06 > To: [email protected]; Dennis E. Hamilton > Cc: Andrea Pescetti; Kay Schenk; Melissa Warnkin > Subject: Re: Apache@ OSCON question > > HI Dennis, *, > > On 21 Jun 2014, at 21:01, Dennis E. Hamilton <[email protected]> wrote: > >> I am willing to make a day trip from Seattle to the OSCON Expo Hall. >> That is affordable for me and appealing if can meet ASF and >> especially AOO folks that I have not yet met in person. >> >> (I have started some work on change- >> tracking for which there might be discussion interest as well.) > > Are you demonstrating this work on the Oasis lists? I don't follow the > office@ list any longer. > And by change tracking, what do you mean, exactly? If that's too broad a > question, feel free to ignore it or answer off list, if it seems beside the > point of this list to you. > > [ ... ] > >
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