On Mon, Mar 31, 2014 at 1:48 PM, Rob Weir <robw...@apache.org> wrote:
> On Mon, Mar 31, 2014 at 4:43 PM, Marcus (OOo) <marcus.m...@wtnet.de> > wrote: > > Am 03/29/2014 09:36 PM, schrieb Roberto Galoppini: > > > >> 2014-03-28 21:24 GMT+01:00 Marcus (OOo)<marcus.m...@wtnet.de>: > >> > >>> Am 03/13/2014 10:01 PM, schrieb Marcus (OOo): > >>> > >>>> Am 03/09/2014 06:08 PM, schrieb Marcus (OOo): > >>>> > >>>>> Am 03/08/2014 12:09 AM, schrieb Andrea Pescetti: > >>>>> > >>>>>> Rob Weir wrote: > >>>>>> > >>>>>>> http://linux.softpedia.com/get/Office/Office-Suites/ > >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>> Apache-OpenOffice-253.shtml > >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>> Or maybe a disclaimer in the voting thread email? > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>>>> Andrew's comments show clearly that these editors do not care to be > >>>>>> careful or factual, or even read those disclaimers, unfortunately. > >>>>>> > >>>>>> We can be successful only if we manage to block their downloads. > They > >>>>>> link to our binaries hosted on SourceForge (which is fine). Just > >>>>>> thinking loud, but if it was possible (on the Sourceforge side) to > >>>>>> deny > >>>>>> all download requests that do not come from the openoffice.org or > the > >>>>>> sourceforge.net domains, then the project would effectively be in > >>>>>> control. The embargo could be lifted just after the release. > >>>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> For me this sounds like a great idea. > >>>>> > >>>>> Maybe we should start with denying all download requests that some > from > >>>>> these bad websites. > >>>>> > >>>>> @Roberto: > >>>>> Can you tell us if this possible? If yes, is it much effort for you? > >>>>> > >>>> > >>>> Do you see a chance to get this implemented? I think it could help to > >>>> stop some bad websites to do bad things with our software. > >>>> > >>> > >>> @Roberto: > >>> Maybe you haven't seen this up to now. > >>> > >> > >> Thanks for heads up Marcus, sorry for not having noticed this thread > >> before. > >> > >> > >> > >>> > >>> It would be great if you can tell us if it's possible to exclude some > >>> domains / IP addresses from downloading our software? > >>> > >> > >> I need the domain list and I'll check out with our SiteOps if that's > >> doable. Feel free to send me a list with a direct message. > > > > > > - chip.de > > - computerbase.de > > - softpedia.com > > > > This would be the domains from this thread that could be blocked from > > downloading from Sourceforge. Obviously needs to be extended in the > future. > > Remember, the next will happen with the AOO 4.1.0 RC. ;-) > > > > *Of course*, this is just for the time frame as long as the new version > is > > not officially announced. As soon as the release is public, the block > will > > be removed. > > > > @all: > > I think this could help to limit the downloadability like we want to see > > until the official release. What you think? > > > > I don't know. Won't this just cause confusion? They point to the > files, go to test them, see the links don't work, and then get weird > errors and spend an hour trying to debug it. We don't want to > needlessly annoy them, since their only fault is enthusiasm. Is > there a way we can give a useful error message in this case like, > "This version of Apache OpenOffice has not yet been officially > released. Links to these files are disallowed until the release is > officially approved" or something like that? > > -Rob > +1 This seems sufficient to me. > > Marcus > > > > > > > > > >>> Then we can exclude requester that we don't want (e.g., malware > >>> "distributors"). > >>> > >>> Also in time frames with Beta or RC releases it can help us to steer > who > >>> is able and when it is possible to download OpenOffice like we want to > >>> see > >>> until the real release date is reached. > >> > >> > >> > >>> Thanks > >>> > >>> Marcus > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> Sure, sites could still copy all binaries being voted upon and offer > >>>>>> > >>>>>> them locally, but this would require a more significant effort. on > >>>>>> their > >>>>>> side. > >>>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> And more HDD space and more own bandwith - which is also not what > they > >>>>> want. > >>>>> > >>>>> Marcus > > > > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > > To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org > > For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@openoffice.apache.org > > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org > For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@openoffice.apache.org > > -- ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- MzK "Cats do not have to be shown how to have a good time, for they are unfailing ingenious in that respect." -- James Mason