Forwarding to David. Welcome David!
I am a developer for IA2 implementation in AOO. During IAccessible2 development, James Teh and Michael Curran filed a lot of critical issues, gave great support on technical and even delivered patches for this issue. That is we got a great support from NVDA. The problems you mentioned about JAWS, I think maybe the current version of JAWS does not "know" AOO" as an IA2 application.We can involve JAWS by giving them feedback on that. About ZoomText and Window-eyes, we did not test IA2 with them, maybe they got a problem like JAWS. Because AT tools need to apply different specific strategies to different applications. So if AOO and AT tools want to get a better compatibility, they need to collaborate on IA2 implementation. On Mon, Mar 24, 2014 at 6:09 PM, Yuzhen Fan <fanyuz...@gmail.com> wrote: > Hi David, > > Thanks for your help offering on tests. Currently, we have 2 major testing > work: > > 1. Full Regression Testing on AOO 4.1 - Led by me (need your assistance on > IA2 related testing) > 2. Regression bug checking - Led by Rainer Bielefeld (need your assistance > on IA2 related bugs' checking) > > Please let me know if you are interested for any of above work, or both, > then we will send you detail information and instruction. Thanks again! > > > On Fri, Mar 21, 2014 at 11:21 PM, David Goldfield <dgold...@asb.org> > wrote: > > > Hello. > > I am new to this list and I hope that my comments are being directed to > > the right group. If they should be directed to another list, please let > me > > know and I will comply with the proper guidelines. > > First, I'll introduce myself by telling you that I'm visually impaired, > am > > a user and teacher of several screen readers and I have been in the > > assistive technology field, providing training and support to blind and > > visually impaired computer users for over twenty years. > > I'm a big fan and advocate of open source software. At home, I use NVDA > > as my screen reader. At work, I also use JAWS, Window-eyes, MAGic and > > Zoomtext. I've been working on and off with various versions of > OpenOffice > > for some time, doing some accessibility testing with screen readers and > > wanted to report on how the latest 4.1 beta is working with today's > screen > > readers. > > First, I'll tell you that I've been doing my testing on a Windows 7 Pro > > 32-bit system. We have NVDA 2014.1, the latest build of JAWS 15 and > > Window-eyes 8.4. As of this writing, these are the latest publicly > > available versions of these programs. I suppose that NVDA is an > exception, > > since they release master and next builds of current snapshots but I have > > not tested the latest versions of these snapshots. > > First, I am absolutely thrilled that OpenOffice is implementing > > IAccessible2. In theory, this should make the programs extremely > > compatible with today's screen readers. > > The two programs I've been working with are Writer and Calc. I have not > > done extensive testing yet but just want to make sure I can easily track > > documents, menus and dialogs without any real drama. So far, NVDA > handles > > OO4.1 the best, tracking the caret with no issues and reading cell > > coordinates in Calc. > > Window-eyes 8.4 consistently crashes whenever I try to open Writer or > > Calc. I wrote to GW Micro's support. They wrote back, asking how they > > could duplicate the problem and soon afterward they told me that a post > 8.4 > > build was not experiencing any issues. It is likely that I will have to > > wait for the next public beta of Window-eyes to be posted before I can do > > any further testing. > > JAWS 15 was totally unreliable in Calc, not reading most of the cells as > I > > use arrow keys to move through them. Occasionally, cell info was read > but > > not most of the time. > > Writer's performance with JAWS was a bit better but still inconsistent. > > Here are the comments I sent to Freedom Scientific. > > > > 1. When in Writer, when I type the first line of text in a document > > and press enter, JAWS says "edit Has Flows From." This does not seem to > > happen when pressing enter for subsequent lines. > > 2. When reviewing a document in Writer 4.1, sometimes one line will > > be read when I'm actually reading another. As an example, if I move from > > the second line down to the third line, JAWS sometimes still reads the > > second line. This behavior does not always occur but it happens > regularly > > enough that I felt it should be reported. Once, while reviewing a > document > > character by character, JAWS says "blank" instead of the actual character > > under the cursor and I had to perform a screen refresh. > > > > Freedom Scientific's initial response was disappointing, indicating that > > JAWS currently does not support OpenOffice and then I was told about > their > > support for Microsoft Office. While I have nothing against screen > readers > > supporting Microsoft Office, many of my consumers can't easily afford > > another expensive piece of software and they deserve a good, solid, > robust > > alternative. I attempted to convey this in my reply and later spoke with > > John Carson in their escalation department about this, who told me that > he > > would report it to the appropriate people in product development. I > don't > > necessarily think that what I'm finding are OpenOffice bugs, which is > why I > > haven't filed any tickets as bug reports. I just wanted to give those > > interested on the list a report about my initial findings. > > If there are specific things you'd like me to test or play with, please > > let me know as I'd be happy and honored to assist. > > > > David Goldfield > > http://davidgoldfield.wordpress.com > > > > > > > > *David Goldfield* > > *Computer Technology Instructor* > > *919 Walnut Street* > > *4th Floor* > > *Philadelphia, PA 19107* > > > > *215-627-0600 ext 3277 <215-627-0600%20ext%203277>* > > *FAX: 215-922-0692 <215-922-0692>* > > > > *dgold...@asb.org* <dgold...@asb.org> > > *www.asb.org* <http://www.asb.org> > > > > > > Serving Philadelphia's and the nation's blind and visually impaired > > population since 1874. > > > > www.asb.org< > http://www.facebook.com/pages/Associated-Services-for-the-Blind/234389409941928 > > > > www.asb.org <http://twitter.com/ASBPhiladelphia> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > > To unsubscribe, e-mail: qa-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org > > For additional commands, e-mail: qa-h...@openoffice.apache.org > > > > > > -- > Regards, > Yu Zhen > -- Best Regards, Steve Yin