On Wed, Nov 13, 2013 at 3:38 PM, Keith N. McKenna <k...@apache.org> wrote:

> Rob Weir wrote:
> > On Tue, Nov 12, 2013 at 6:58 PM, Keith N. McKenna
> > <keith.mcke...@comcast.net> wrote:
> > Graham Lauder wrote:
> >>>> On Wed, Nov 13, 2013 at 8:24 AM, Rob Weir <robw...@apache.org>
> >>>> wrote:
> >>>>
> >>>>> On Mon, Nov 11, 2013 at 4:58 PM, Keith N. McKenna
> >>>>> <keith.mcke...@comcast.net> wrote:
> >>>> Rob Weir wrote:
> >>>>>>>> I'm thinking of starting to create an updated migration
> >>>>>>>> guide for AOO. If you have any thoughts on this, or want to
> >>>>>>>> help, let me know.
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> Target audience includes:
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> 1) Individual Microsoft Office users, where such users
> >>>>>>>> provide their own technical support.
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> 2) IT departments who support users migrating from MS
> >>>>>>>> Office to OpenOffice
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> 3) Groups considering moving to AOO and wanting some
> >>>>>>>> guidance on migration strategy
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> Rather than starting from scratch, I looked around to see
> >>>>>>>> if there is anything close that could be updated.   I saw
> >>>>>>>> that we have a few older versions of this kind of
> >>>>>>>> document:
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> 1) "Migration Guide: A guide to ease your migration to
> >>>>>>>> OpenOffice.org from other office suites" (2004)
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> http://www.openoffice.org/documentation/manuals/oooauthors/MigrationGuide.pdf
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> > 2) OpenOffice.org 2.0 Migration Guide (2006)
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> https://wiki.openoffice.org/wiki/Documentation/OOoAuthors_User_Manual/Migration_Guide
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> > 3) OpenOffice.org Migration Guide (2006)
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>
> https://wiki.openoffice.org/w/images/7/79/0600MG-MigrationGuide.pdf
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>
> > Does anyone know of anything more recent than the 2006 version?
> >>>>>>>> Does anyone know where the source for the 2006 PDF is?  Or
> >>>>>>>> was it generated from the wiki?
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>> I believe that all the documentation for Version 2 was done on the
> >>>> wiki and was then made into PDF's using an add-on.
> >>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> OK.  If I wanted to start a new revision of the guide, without
> >>>>>> wiping out or replacing the old version, is there any way to do
> >>>>>> this?   For example, is it possible to make a copy of this page
> >>>>>> and the subpages?
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> https://wiki.openoffice.org/wiki/Documentation/OOoAuthors_User_Manual/Migration_Guide
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> > I don't see how to do this.  Perhaps it requires admin rights?
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> -Rob
> >>>>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>> Ack Sorry,  GMail defaults can be a pain... as I was trying to
> >>>>> say
> >>>>
> >>>>> It shouldn't be too difficult,  I think that you can do this
> >>>>> using the move tab, you can rename that and the subpages as well
> >>>>> although that's not a copy per se.
> >>>>
> >>>>> I'll see what I can do, just may have to revert,  if it all turns
> >>>>> to custard tarts
> >>>>
> >>>>> Cheers GL
> >>>>
> >>>>
> > Graham;
> >
> > Using the Move command will rename the pages to the new namespace and
> > set a redirect on the original to the new pages.
> >
> > One word of caution. Those pages are covered by the CCBY license. The
> > only way I now to redo those pages under an alv2 license would be to
> > start over from scratch and not use the prior pages at all. For me it
> > makes much more sense to just update the pages with current
> > information and keep the license as is. However I bring it up as some
> > people have rather strong opinions about using other than the alv2
> > license.
> >
> >
> >> I don't see a problem building on the existing content, under the
> >> stated license.  We're not including these guides in a release.  The
> >> reason for a copy was to preserve the existing material for users
> >> while a new version is being prepared.  It could take a few weeks to
> >> do the update and it could be messy day-to-day.
> >
> >> -Rob
>
> Rob;
> I agree completely that updating and keeping the current license is the
> best way forward. The only way I see to achieve what you are referring
> to is to create a new set of pages and manually copy the wikitext from
> one to the other. The move command renames the old to the new and sets
> the old as a redirect to the new. This is not a copy operation, but more
> on the lines of the move command in dos.
> <snip>
>

There is an easy way to remove the redirects, I just had to figure it out.
Anyway all done so ready to edit

Cheers
GL





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