On 26 October 2013 19:41, Kay Schenk <kay.sch...@gmail.com> wrote: > On Sat, Oct 26, 2013 at 8:40 AM, janI <j...@apache.org> wrote: > > > I was just thinking, because I just merged l10n40 from trunk and got very > > tired. > > > > I think your idea of making it easy for translators and also documenters > is > > real good. > > > > But you have spare cycles to spare for this, why not approach it > > differently and decouple the help system. Somewhere in the code (I dont > > know where, but you may know), the help system is called with an id. If > we > > branch at that point to call a standard help system instead it would be > > decoupled. > > > > If you could do the decoupling, I can for sure help transform the current > > help into whatever format is required for a new help system. At the > moment > > I burn cycles comprehending what happens, I dare not start thinking > "why", > > I am pretty sure that with the same resource usage we could make a help > > system based on todays help standard. > > > > I think this has been suggested in the past as well, and maybe what I'm > trying to do will be a first step to this. At this point, I don't know > where/how the Help system get launched. > > It would make sense to put the "help" stuff in its own svn area like we do > with "extras" for example, and then go from there at least. A ways down the > road I think. > It would make the whole translation process (new one) more difficult if help was in its own area, because right now all references are within main, and its simple to expect all modules in main to be at same level, I dont consider it simple to secure that 2 (or more) different svn areas are at the same level. If they happen to be at different level and someone generates templates it will go wrong, because keys will not match and wrong messages will be extracted.
Why do you think it would help with its own area, whether you write main/helpcontent2 or helpcontent2 does not make a difference or ? > > Thanks for your support and willingness to help. > No problem, its just returning the help I needed :-) rgds jan I. > > > > just my idea a saturday afternoon, where I see someone change the > > readmelicense.xrm and my parser broke. > > > > rgds > > jan I. > > > > > > > > On 25 October 2013 21:42, janI <j...@apache.org> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On 25 October 2013 18:33, Kay Schenk <kay.sch...@gmail.com> wrote: > > > > > >> On Thu, Oct 24, 2013 at 11:36 PM, janI <j...@apache.org> wrote: > > >> > > >> > On 25 October 2013 01:06, Kay Schenk <kay.sch...@gmail.com> wrote: > > >> > > > >> > > [top posting] > > >> > > > > >> > > never mind on this question. I found the answer -- I didn't do a > > last > > >> > step. > > >> > > > > >> > > Sorry for the noise. > > >> > > > > >> > > > >> > the makefiles in helpcontent2, are like good italian spaghetti, > > >> especially > > >> > the util directories, where parts of what was done in source is > > >> > overwritten. > > >> > > > >> > > >> > > >> ??? I need to take a closer look at what you're saying here...this is > > >> exactly where I stopped looking yesterday. > > >> > > > > > > tell me if I can help. In branch l10n40 you can see some of the > changed I > > > had to do to make it work. My biggest problem was the .tree files, and > > the > > > fact that whereas most input files are in source some of them (index > etc) > > > is in util for SOME not all of the parts. > > > > > > Let me know if I can help. > > > > > > rgds > > > jan I. > > > > > > > > >> > > >> > > >> > > > >> > I have integrated genLang here, but its on my list to strip the > > >> makefiles > > >> > down to what we use (today). > > >> > > > >> > rgds > > >> > jan I. > > >> > > > >> > > > >> Well, as it turns out, my "problem" is not solved. The jars I'm > looking > > >> for > > >> "supposedly" get generated in the makefile in helpcontent2/util, > > >> but...still no jars. > > >> > > >> As per the old instructions, I got into helpcontent2 and just did a > > build. > > >> > > >> I'm trying to figure out what's required to just deal with the help > > files > > >> -- editing/seeing results -- apart from a complete build of the > product. > > >> What I'm thinking is we might be able to kludge some simple config for > > >> users interested in just tech writing for this area. > > >> > > >> more later...after more trials > > >> > > >> > > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > On Thu, Oct 24, 2013 at 2:51 PM, Kay Schenk <kay.sch...@gmail.com > > > > >> > wrote: > > >> > > > > >> > > > I'm trying to find my way around the bundled help with AOO -- > how > > to > > >> > put > > >> > > > stuff in, how to build etc to see changes. > > >> > > > > > >> > > > So, I made some changes and followed instructions for building > in: > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > >> > > > http://www.openoffice.org/documentation/online_help/OOo2HelpAuthoring.pdf > > >> > > > > > >> > > > pp. 21, 22 > > >> > > > > > >> > > > This was building ONLY helpcontent2. > > >> > > > > > >> > > > Some things happened -- new zip files were created but not the > > .jar > > >> > files > > >> > > > FROM the zip files found in <openoffice4-location>/help > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > Can anyone tell me what needs to be built next to make this > > happen? > > >> > > > > > >> > > > I've done a bunch of searches on some of the makefiles etc but > > can't > > >> > > > readily find this. Thanks for any help on Help. :} > > >> > > > > > >> > > > -- > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > >> > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- > > >> > > > MzK > > >> > > > > > >> > > > “Unless someone like you cares a whole awful lot, > > >> > > > Nothing is going to get better. It's not.” > > >> > > > -- Dr. Seuss, The Lorax > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > -- > > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > >> > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- > > >> > > MzK > > >> > > > > >> > > “Unless someone like you cares a whole awful lot, > > >> > > Nothing is going to get better. It's not.” > > >> > > -- Dr. Seuss, The Lorax > > >> > > > > >> > > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> -- > > >> > > >> > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- > > >> MzK > > >> > > >> “Unless someone like you cares a whole awful lot, > > >> Nothing is going to get better. It's not.” > > >> -- Dr. Seuss, The Lorax > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- > MzK > > “Unless someone like you cares a whole awful lot, > Nothing is going to get better. It's not.” > -- Dr. Seuss, The Lorax >
