On 25 September 2013 17:35, Shenfeng Liu <liush...@gmail.com> wrote:

> 2013/9/25 Oliver-Rainer Wittmann <orwittm...@googlemail.com>
>
> > Hi,
> >
> > resending as my "reply to list" goes only to qa@o.a.o
> >
> >
> > On 25.09.2013 12:17, Yuzhen Fan wrote:
> >
> >> -1:
> >>
> >> I vote -1 for RC3 because of these 3 issues, the first two are function
> >> regressions from 3.4.1 and 4.0.0, the last one is for bad user
> experience
> >> on Redhat 64bit installation.
> >>
> >> Bug 123345 - [Regression]Docx embedded table display incorrectly
> >> Bug 123346 - [Regression]the bullet display incorrectly when open docx
> >> file
> >> in AOO
> >> Bug 123348 - Cannot integrate AOO 4.0.0 in desktop menu in Redhat6.4
> 64bit
> >>
> >>
> > I can confirm that 123345 and 123346 are regressions which had been
> > introduced in AOO 4.0.0
> >
> > On the one hand I agree that regressions introduced in the latest release
> > should be fixed in the next release.
> > On the other hand we are already quite far in our planned AOO 4.0.1
> > release schedule and AOO401rc3 contains a lot of important bug fixes and
> > improvements regarding our supported languages. Thus, I strongly vote for
> > releasing AOO401rc3 as AOO 4.0.1 under these circumstances.
> > From my point of view 123345 and 123346 should be release blocker for our
> > next release.
> >
> > Regarding issue 123348:
> > As far as I know this issue is not new and already known. I think a
> > workaround exist. Thus, for me this is not a release blocker.
> >
> > Yu Zhen, do you think you can change your mind regarding your vote?
> >
> >
> > Best regards, Oliver.
> >
>
> IMO, if we have quick solution for 123345 and 123346, and the impact is
> limited, I'd rather to wait for 3~4 more days a RC4. And the testing and
> voting for RC3 can be inherited. For a quality release, ideally our target
> should be no regression.
> If it is difficult to give a save fix quickly and the issues are only about
> special samples, we can consider to defer them to next release.
> Just my $0.02.
>

I agree with the above.

I find it disturbing that, 4.0 was postponed due to QA issues, and we even
made a blog about it. 4.0.1 goes out despite a public rejection from QA. I
am sure some of the press will pick this up.

To be consistent we  should make a blog telling that we ignore QA just to
make a fast release. I know this will not (and should not happen), but I am
afraid we might be reading it in the press.

I would like to, for the future, have a discussion of the QA role. Are QA
statements merely a polite advice to the release manager (status today), or
can we make a rule stating that we do NOT release if QA reject the
candidate.

rgds
jan I.


>
> - Shenfeng (Simon)
>
>
>
> >
> >
> >
> >> Regards,
> >> Yu Zhen
> >>
> >>
> >> On Wed, Sep 25, 2013 at 4:07 PM, Herbert Duerr <h...@apache.org> wrote:
> >>
> >>  this is a call for vote on releasing the RC3 release candidate as
> >>>
> >>>> Apache OpenOffice 4.0.1. This will be an important update release for
> >>>> Apache OpenOffice 4.0 to fix some serious regressions and to introduce
> >>>> some new languages (Basque, Khmer, Lithuaian, Polish, Serbian
> Cyrillic,
> >>>> Swedish, Turkish, Vietnamese and Chinese Traditional). It is a further
> >>>> key milestone to continue the success of OpenOffice.
> >>>> [...]
> >>>>
> >>>> The RC is based on the release branch AOO401, revision 1524958!
> >>>>
> >>>> Please vote on releasing this package as Apache OpenOffice 4.0.1.
> >>>> [...]
> >>>>
> >>>>      [ ] +1 Release this package as Apache OpenOffice 4.0.1
> >>>>      [ ]  0 Don't care
> >>>>      [ ] -1 Do not release this package because...
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>> +1 : release AOO401rc3 (a.k.a. r1524958) as Apache OpenOffice 4.0.1
> >>>
> >>> Herbert
> >>>
> >>>
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