The posting quoted in extenso below was made today to the en-Forum. I have no knowledge of Base or of the protocols of Wiki but I am anxious, as I am sure are all working on OpenOffice, that users have as good an experience with it as possible. This includes best advice. As I say, I have no knowledge of the workings of Base, but I have seen the level and quality of advice offered by DACM and other Forum volunteers who specialise in that area, so my instinct would be to accept his considered opinion (and hence his Wiki postings) as best advice. I am not certain how ths matter might be best progressed, so I thought it best to lay before the dev ML.
The full Forum thread is at http://forum.openoffice.org/en/forum/viewtopic.php?f=49&t=63999 At present the subsequent postings are for information relevant to the below posting. I have inserted a few breaks to avoid gripes about long lines from my mailer. The posting is: ---------- Subject: A Base issue cover-up? Poster: DACM (Forum volunteer) I consider it a distinct privilege to participate in this and other community forums, predominately in support of Base. The moderators have endured my sometimes outspoken critique of Base in the process of urging Base users to adopt a reliable database configuration for production data. I simply joined the [url=http://forum.openoffice.org/en/forum/viewtopic.php?f=83&t=17567]campaign of [b]r4zoli[/b][/url], [b]Sliderule[/b], [b]Villeroy[/b] and many others as we've sought to maintain a proper balance between transparency and Base/Office promotion -- as avid users ourselves. As a result, any 'seasoned' Base user is now keenly-aware of the Base instabilities associated with storing database-files internally, within the Base .odb file, otherwise known as 'embedded database' files. We continue to encounter newer/un-aware users that have fallen victim, and find themselves desperately begging for help with critical data recovery. For instance, [url=http://forum.openoffice.org/en/forum/viewtopic.php?f=13&t=63986]here's today's entry[/url]. Our support includes data-recovery, automated backups, configuration tutorials, data-migration tutorials, [url=http://forum.openoffice.org/en/forum/viewtopic.php?f=83&t=61183]automated templates[/url], examples, personalized user-help, etc. To that end, I've painstakingly generated detailed tutorials outlining each of these solutions (up through concurrent database access among multiple users in networked environments) to the official[color=#FF0000] [url=http://wiki.openoffice.org/wiki/FAQ_(Base)#HSQLDB]Apache OpenOffice.org Wiki[/url][/color]. I understand the nature of a Wiki (and the ability to 'undo' changes), but apparently those tutorials were removed recently by [b]Eschmenk[/b] citing "[i][url=http://wiki.openoffice.org/w/index.php?title=FAQ_(Base)&action=history]Major rewrite of some confusing sections.[/url][/i]" Now I can appreciate any effort to clarify while condensing my prose, but this effort substantially eliminated the tutorials and all links to this forum (leaving all others intact), while further sanitizing the content of any reference to data-corruption or known Base instabilities/workarounds/wizards/etc. In other words, [b]Eschmenk[/b] intentionally gutted the content and all references to easy/automated solutions, while effectively eliminating all motivation to avoid 'embedded database' files. What's left is a confusing and suspicious fraction of the original tutorials and information. This is troubling because we can no longer presume that new and inexperienced Base users have encountered data-corruption due to a lack of exposure to information channels. [color=#FF0000]If [b]Eschmenk[/b] represents an insider, then we we will soon be encountering victims who have lost data due to a lack of motivation/awareness, due to the sanitized nature of the propaganda allowed through official channels.[/color] Thankfully, we enjoy much greater transparency in this forum which serves to overcome the intentional misrepresentation of the facts by insiders. But it still hurts to realize that we have such [apparent and blatant] dishonesty in the form of a cover-up extant in the open-source community. :( See [url=http://www.mediafire.com/?m8yhn6xyc7mhewl]related excerpt[/url] (Sep 03, 2013) from: [url=http://www.mediafire.com/?6h7cqhv66u6793d]FAQ (Base) - Apache OpenOffice Wiki.pdf[/url] ... -- Rory O'Farrell <ofarr...@iol.ie> --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@openoffice.apache.org