On Mon, Sep 2, 2013 at 1:09 PM, Marcus (OOo) <marcus.m...@wtnet.de> wrote:

> Am 09/02/2013 06:51 PM, schrieb Alexandro Colorado:
>
>  It also looks a bit 'dumb' that we dont have a link to others from the
>> download page within our no script tag:
>>
>
> Of course it doesn't make sense to refer to a page with JS when JS is
> disabled in the broeser. That's why there is no link to the webpage.
>

​downloads, need to provide a download link, that is just common sense.
There is another problem with othes.html but not offering ANY link, is no
solution.​




>
> Marcus
>
>
>
>
>  On Mon, Sep 2, 2013 at 11:49 AM, Alexandro Colorado<j...@oooes.org>
>>  wrote:
>>
>>  On 9/2/13, Andrea Pescetti<pesce...@apache.org>  wrote:
>>>
>>>> In the last few weeks we've seen users unable to see the big "Download"
>>>> button in 
>>>> http://www.openoffice.org/**download/<http://www.openoffice.org/download/>due
>>>>  to broken (but still
>>>> used) browsers that failed to parse the JavaScript correctly. And
>>>> http://www.openoffice.org/**download/other.html<http://www.openoffice.org/download/other.html>cannot
>>>>  be used as a
>>>> fallback due to the same issue.
>>>>
>>>> The JavaScript in other.html is used only to generate the page content,
>>>> and the result is independent of the user's browser: as Marcus
>>>> explained, it is there for convenience in creating the page.
>>>>
>>>
>>> How are we using the<noscript>  tag within others? and which kind of
>>> content is it trying to plug?
>>>
>>>  Would it make sense to do the following?
>>>>
>>>> 1) Add an "All Apache OpenOffice downloads" link in the right-hand-side
>>>> column of 
>>>> http://www.openoffice.org/**download/<http://www.openoffice.org/download/>near
>>>>  the top: this way, we
>>>> ensure that browsers with poor JavaScript support still display the
>>>> link.
>>>>
>>>
>>> Problaby the quicker solution, still is just a patch instead of just
>>> doing good webdev.
>>>
>>>  2) Rename other.html to other_js.html
>>>>
>>>
>>> This is a bad idea, I've seen many alternative clones being
>>> unmantained by webmasters.
>>>
>>>  3) Modify other.html by pasting the actual download table (can be
>>>> retrieved, for example, with Firebug from other_js.html) in its HTML.
>>>>
>>>> This way we add a manual step (step 3) once per release, but we can be
>>>> sure that virtually all users can download OpenOffice in all cases
>>>> (working JavaScript, no JavaScript, broken JavaScript).
>>>>
>>>> Regards,
>>>>     Andrea.
>>>>
>>>
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