2013/8/19 Jürgen Schmidt <jogischm...@gmail.com> > On 8/19/13 1:43 PM, Rob Weir wrote: > > On Sun, Aug 18, 2013 at 5:24 PM, Ricardo Berlasso <rgb.m...@gmail.com> > wrote: > >> (top posting) > >> > >> User SLV-es from ES forums proposed a new logo > >> > >> > http://forum.openoffice.org/es/forum/download/file.php?id=3924&mode=view > >> > > > > Why aren't we just using the proper AOO logo, the same one we use on > > the website, the blog, the wiki, etc.? If we can do that then the > > user will understand that this is an official website. Consistency is > > good for this. And then you can have a text title that says > > "Community Support Forum" or something like that. > > exactly I do not understand either this discussion, why not using the > new existing one. Maybe tweaked to fit in the forum header >
Note that I'm not in favour of using a different logo on forums, but that I'm not particularly in favour of using the same either. I think there is a difference between "consistent branding" and "plain homogeneity" and that there is room for small changes without loosing the "branding" (underlining _small_). IMO, the discussion about the forum logo have two background points. The first one is historical: forums used a custom logo since the beginning. This is not bad for itself... nor good: it's just a fact. The second point is more "technical": with the blue background the official logo will be lost. There are two ways of solving this, a change on forum header background or a custom logo: the solution used up to now. User SLV-es created a new proposal (uploaded on the issue): http://forum.openoffice.org/es/forum/download/file.php?id=3926&mode=view Basically, it's the official logo with the addition of the lifesaver to emphasise the idea of "help". I find the concept nice, but that's just me ;) Regards Ricardo > > Juergen > > > > > > > -Rob > > > > > >> On his own words, it needs some work but IMO it shows an interesting > tweak, > >> maintaining both, colours and fonts from original logo but with a > variant > >> that suggest "help" (the main forum purpose). > >> > >> I suggested the author to attach his proposal to the issue. > >> > >> Regards > >> Ricardo > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> 2013/8/12 Rob Weir <robw...@apache.org> > >> > >>> On Sun, Aug 11, 2013 at 6:13 PM, Ricardo Berlasso <rgb.m...@gmail.com> > >>> wrote: > >>>> 2013/8/11 Alexandro Colorado <j...@oooes.org> > >>>> > >>>>> On Sun, Aug 11, 2013 at 4:22 PM, Dave Fisher <w...@apache.org> > wrote: > >>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>>>> Sent from my iPhone > >>>>>> > >>>>>> On Aug 11, 2013, at 3:54 PM, Alexandro Colorado <j...@oooes.org> > >>> wrote: > >>>>>> > >>>>>>> On Sun, Aug 11, 2013 at 3:16 PM, Dave Fisher <w...@apache.org> > >>> wrote: > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> Sent from my iPhone > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> On Aug 11, 2013, at 3:04 PM, Alexandro Colorado <j...@oooes.org> > >>>>> wrote: > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>> There is also other sites like extensions, www and > >>>>>> openoffice.apache.org > >>>>>>>> , > >>>>>>>>> blog, templates. We have a new logo, which means the sites need > >>> to be > >>>>>>>>> updated. > >>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>> Since AOO hasn't really mature to the old OOo days where there > >>> was a > >>>>>>>>> dedicated webdev project to handle all sites, is clear there > >>> needs to > >>>>>> be > >>>>>>>>> some initiative from somewhere to perform this mantainance. > >>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>> So the status is: > >>>>>>>>> blog, www, extensions and o...@apache.org have the new logo > >>>>>>>>> templates, forum, wiki, forum index still on the old logo or > don't > >>>>> have > >>>>>>>> the > >>>>>>>>> previous logo at all. > >>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>> I develop an incremental adaptation of the logo to perform a > >>> similar > >>>>>> font > >>>>>>>>> to the new logo which uses Sans Pro. But kept the 3 gulls > artwork. > >>>>>> Andrea > >>>>>>>>> recomended to replace the 3 gulls with the orb. > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> Why would you change the font? And what did you change it too? > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> https://issues.apache.org/ooo/show_bug.cgi?id=122998#c0 > >>>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>>>> The bugzilla does not answer my question. > >>>>>> > >>>>>> You used two fonts what are they and what is the license? > >>>>>> > >>>>>> IIRC open sans is Apache licensed. Why change? > >>>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> I think you missread, they were change into Sans Pro. Please look at > the > >>>>> source SVG for 1 to 1 comparison from legacy to new one based on the > >>>>> current AOO Logo. > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>> > >>>> Adobe's Source Sans Pro font is OLF licensed while, as Dave said, open > >>> sans > >>>> is Apache Licensed. IMO, if you changed from open sans to source sans > pro > >>>> then Dave's question is perfectly valid. > >>>> > >>> > >>> > >>> So we're all on the same page: the AOO 4.0 Logo uses Source Sans Pro. > >>> This must not be changed without discussion and PMC approval. If the > >>> idea is to update the old forum/wiki headers to use Source Sans Pro > >>> and new logo elements, then this sounds like the right direction. > >>> > >>> -Rob > >>> > >>>> Regard > >>>> Ricardo > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>> An issue has been put in place on bugzilla #122998 with all the > >>>>> samples > >>>>>>>> and > >>>>>>>>> sources. > >>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>> On Sun, Aug 11, 2013 at 2:52 PM, Hagar Delest < > >>>>>> hagar.del...@laposte.net > >>>>>>>>> wrote: > >>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>> The question was raised in another thread but better have a > >>>>> dedicated > >>>>>>>> one. > >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>> What is the status with the headers exactly? A user will > >>> certainly > >>>>>>>> visit 3 > >>>>>>>>>> areas first: the main site, then the wiki and the forum. Today > >>> they > >>>>>>>> have 3 > >>>>>>>>>> different headers. As pointed out by Andrea, we need a > consistent > >>>>>>>> branding > >>>>>>>>>> to give users a kind of security feeling. > >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>> I've made a dedicated topic in the forum showing the 3 current > >>>>> headers > >>>>>>>> and > >>>>>>>>>> a proposal I've made very quickly: > >>> http://forum.openoffice.org/** > >>>>>>>>>> en/forum/viewtopic.php?f=50&t=**63523< > >>>>>>>> http://forum.openoffice.org/en/forum/viewtopic.php?f=50&t=63523> > >>>>>>>>>> No need to register to see it so have a look. > >>>>>>>>>> The point is: we should have the same branding (icon + text) at > >>>>> least > >>>>>>>> for > >>>>>>>>>> every areas, at the same location. > >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>> Hagar > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>> > ------------------------------**------------------------------**--------- > >>>>>>>>>> To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscribe@openoffice.**apache.org > < > >>>>>>>> dev-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org> > >>>>>>>>>> For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@openoffice.apache.org > >>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>> -- > >>>>>>>>> Alexandro Colorado > >>>>>>>>> Apache OpenOffice Contributor > >>>>>>>>> http://www.openoffice.org > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > >>> --------------------------------------------------------------------- > >>>>>>>> To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org > >>>>>>>> For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@openoffice.apache.org > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> -- > >>>>>>> Alexandro Colorado > >>>>>>> Apache OpenOffice Contributor > >>>>>>> http://www.openoffice.org > >>>>>> > >>>>>> > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > >>>>>> To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org > >>>>>> For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@openoffice.apache.org > >>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> -- > >>>>> Alexandro Colorado > >>>>> Apache OpenOffice Contributor > >>>>> http://www.openoffice.org > >>>>> > >>> > >>> --------------------------------------------------------------------- > >>> To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org > >>> For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@openoffice.apache.org > >>> > >>> > > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > > To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org > > For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@openoffice.apache.org > > > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org > For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@openoffice.apache.org > >
