On Sun, Aug 11, 2013 at 8:40 PM, Simon Kornblith <si...@simonster.com> wrote: > > On Aug 11, 2013, at 8:02 PM, Rob Weir <robw...@apache.org> wrote: > >> On Sun, Aug 11, 2013 at 7:48 PM, Simon Kornblith <si...@simonster.com> wrote: >>> As I wrote in a previous post to openoffice-dev, this is not just about >>> having to modify the extension, which I would be happy to do. It's also >>> about having to modify the way we install the extension. But it's mostly >>> that our extension will break on upgrade from AOO 3.4 to AOO 4 for 100% of >>> our users no matter what, and the best we can do is to pop up a dialog >>> telling the user to update or reinstall it. >>> >>> If we can get a promise that future updates to AOO will always allow a >>> single extension to work with both previous and current AOO versions (even >>> if updates to the extension are necessary to do so) then I'd feel better >>> about supporting AOO 4. >>> >> >> The goal now, as always, is to preserve compatibility within a major >> release series. So extensions for AOO 4.0 should be run fine on AOO >> 4.1, 4.2, 4.3, etc. However, at major version updates, e.g., AOO >> 5.0, then you can expect extensions will need to be updated. Such >> major version releases happen at long intervals, longer than (I >> assume) your regular maintenance updates in your extension itself. > > To be clear: we are happy to make changes to our extension to accommodate new > AOO versions. We make frequent changes to our Firefox extension to keep up > with Firefox releases, and we realize that API changes are sometimes > necessary to build a stable and competitive product. > > What makes us unhappy is that it is impossible to build an extension that > works with both AOO 3.4 and AOO 4, and there is no change that we can make to > our extension that will prevent it from breaking when a user upgrades from > AOO 3.4 to AOO 4. No matter what we do, our users need to install a different > extension after upgrading to AOO 4 to make Zotero work again. > > From our standpoint, this not acceptable. It doesn't just take our time; it > takes our users' and our community support's time as well, and it's > unprecedented in 7 years' experience developing add-ons for Firefox, Word, > and OpenOffice.org. Again, it would be fine if the extension needs changes to > work with 5.0, as long as the same extension can still work with 4.x. There > are a lot of ways to do this, the easiest of which is just to allow loading > different versions of files for different AOO versions. >
It is not my role to tell you what to do. Zotero is working under the sponsorship of a non-profit organization, like we are. We're all trying to do what is best for users. We'll all working hard at what we do, trying to bring value to users. I'm not going to argue what you should do, though I am happy to answer any questions you might have about how to update your extensions. But I will say that we have had over 60 million downloads of Apache OpenOffice, making us by far the most popular open source productivity suite in use today. So if Zotero is not able to work with Apache OpenOffice, many of our mutual users will be upset. So I hope you can find someway to adapt your code. Regards, -Rob > Simon > >> Regards, >> >> -Rob >> >>> Simon >>> >>> On Aug 11, 2013, at 7:26 PM, Alexandro Colorado <j...@oooes.org> wrote: >>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> On Sun, Aug 11, 2013 at 6:07 PM, Dan Stillman <dstill...@zotero.org> wrote: >>>> Nothing to do with memes or marketing. >>>> >>>> https://forums.zotero.org/discussion/30885/openoffice-400-no-zotero-toolbar/ >>>> >>>> So acording to this forum, is because of Apache OpenOffice active >>>> development as opposed to innactive development that Zotero plugin can't >>>> work. >>>> >>>> We have been documenting the changes and docs for extension mantainers >>>> http://wiki.openoffice.org/wiki/Extensions/Extensions_and_Apache_OpenOffice_4.0 >>>> >>>> Why toolbar change? As you might know UX changes in AOO4 had an impact on >>>> the XML schema for our UI. Feel free to add support for 4.0 following >>>> these improvements. >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> On 8/11/13 7:04 PM, Alexandro Colorado wrote: >>>>> This seems a bit full of memes. Which is also a big hurdle on our lack of >>>>> marketing to bring users back into the active state of Apache OpenOffice. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> On Sun, Aug 11, 2013 at 5:37 PM, Wolf Halton <wolf.hal...@gmail.com> >>>>> wrote: >>>>> *Though I am not personally all that active.. >>>>> * >>>>> I think AOO is extremely actively under development. >>>>> * >>>>> >>>>> Apache OpenOffice 4 users:* Zotero does not currently support Apache >>>>> OpenOffice 4. While a future release may include support for Apache >>>>> OpenOffice 4, we encourage you to switch to >>>>> LibreOffice<http://www.libreoffice.org/download>, >>>>> which is based on the same codebase but is more actively developed. >>>>> http://www.zotero.org/support/word_processor_plugin_installation >>>>> >>>>> Grrr! >>>>> >>>>> Wolf Halton >>>>> >>>>> -- >>>>> This Apt Has Super Cow Powers - http://sourcefreedom.com >>>>> Security in the Cloud - >>>>> http://AtlantaCloudTech.com<http://atlantaCloudTech.com> >>>>> Apache Developer wolfhal...@apache.org >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> -- >>>>> Alexandro Colorado >>>>> Apache OpenOffice Contributor >>>>> http://www.openoffice.org >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> -- >>>> Alexandro Colorado >>>> Apache OpenOffice Contributor >>>> http://www.openoffice.org >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>> >> > --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@openoffice.apache.org
