On Tue, Aug 6, 2013 at 10:16 AM, Rob Weir <robw...@apache.org> wrote:
> On Tue, Aug 6, 2013 at 10:01 AM, RA Stehmann
> <anw...@rechtsanwalt-stehmann.de> wrote:
>> On 06.08.2013 15:43, Jürgen Schmidt wrote:
>>
>>>> I think it is more "tact" than "luck".  But we have had some success
>>>> in making such requests in the past, generally quiet requests directly
>>>> to the developer.  Most open source developers write code because they
>>>> want it to be used and for people to benefit from it.  So if you give
>>>> them an opportunity for their code to be even more widely used, this
>>>> aligns with their goals as well.  But such requests must be made
>>>> quietly, via private email, since there is a lot of peer pressure to
>>>> be uncooperative with Apache.
>>>
>>> mmh, I don't like this under the hood tactic, I would prefer a public
>>> blog post to invite developers to provide their patches under ALv2 to
>>> make them available to all users of any OpoenOffice derivative.
>>>
>>> Why not asking directly? I personally don't care about people shooting
>>> against me, especially not if their reasons are so stupid and against my
>>> understanding of open source.
>>>
>>> Really open minded people will see the benefit of contributing to the
>>> core and fix problems where the code intially comes from.
>>
>> An under the hood tactic wouldn't work, because the AOO sources are
>> open, so everybody can see contributions coming from "LibreOffice
>> developers". You can't keep the contributions secret.
>>
>
> Actually, it does work.   It has happened on several occasions, even
> with AOO 4.0.
>
> I think you are mixing up two things:  asking privately and
> contributing publicly.  These are not contradictory.
>

Or maybe the point you are missing is the distinction between a
"quiet" approach and a "secret" approach.  These are not the same
thing.  I'm not proposing secrecy.   But one can be transparent
without drawing unwanted attention to a request.

-Rob


> In any case, I'd challenge anyone to point to an example where the
> contrary approach worked:  asking publicly on the LO mailing list.
>
> -Rob
>
>
>> So IMO ask them in an open way - hoping to find open minded people.
>>
>> Regards
>> Michael
>>
>>

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