"Who are you, where are you from, what are you interested in? These are all good things to cover."

My name is Tom Goldie, and I am from, and live in, Arizona. I am an educator by trade.

My interest in this list and this community is as follows: I currently teach inmates in a large (3500 men) prison -- 75 at any one time -- how to use OpenOffice. I use it, love it, and share what I know wherever I can. My motto: "Friends don't send friends document it will cost them hundreds of dollars to open."

We have one problem: we don't have any recognized standards to teach to. Sure, we have come up with what WE think is important, but we're looking for something that guys can feel good about earning and that will tell potential employers what they are likely to know.

Here's what I'm offering: my "expertise", such as it is, and a whole lot of prison labor (voluntary, you can be assured) to flesh-out and test standards and curriculum materials to form the basis for an OpenOffice Certification. I believe the approach I'm suggesting is different and more easily completed because it is driven by produced documents -- which brings into ready and sharp focus requisite skills and thought processes.

Here's the idea so far, with some sketching-in in a few places to give you an idea of how it would go together:

1) OpenOffice users across the globe are asked, "What documents is it important to know how to make?" Of course, depending on experience the responses will be varied, but perhaps it begins to shape up as follows:

Writer -- business and personal letters, shopping lists, mailmerge letters, academic papers (MLA in the US, not sure about elsewhere), memos, newsletters, etc.

Calc -- inventory sheet, payroll calculation, balance sheet, budget -- I KNOW there is a lot of variety out there, but perhaps representative sheets with common functions and can be settled on

Draw -- line and block organization chart, simple product illustration, landscape scene with imported bitmaps, artistic rendering of automobile, whatever.

Note that Impress, Base, Math,and Basic are left out for now -- but not forgotten.

2. We (a working group of me and interested people from this community) gather from all over the globe .pdfs of each of these documents and their specifications. We decide which document elements are signature, come up with different levels of elegance of handling them, and then assign documents and methods to certain levels.

Some sketching here is in order: Let's take letters. There are business and personal letters. We can say what SHOULD NOT be done (hard returns at the end of lines), but also say that adding paragraph markers for above/below paragraph spacing is a beginner-level technique (and students should be aware of the pitfalls), but creating and applying a paragraph style is an intermediate-level technique. Instruction can be provided for creating common elements: page numbering, dates, alignments and indents, margins, and such -- which will be determined by looking over user submissions. The student passes the letter portion at either basic or intermediate level when they avoid all the don'ts, and then apply the appropriate techniques.

This is done for each type of common document for each facet of OO. More difficult documents (say, books, or long academic papers -- things that require tweaks for headers, bookmarks, cross-references, etc.) are in the advanced section.

For Impress, it is pretty easy to figure out what are basic tasks (transitions, animations), intermediate tasks (more complicated animations and timing, making groovy slide masters), and advanced topics (printing handouts, notes, etc.).

For Base, beginners should be able to navigate a database, view data using filters and sort, perform queries, use forms, enter data in tables and forms, run reports with parameterized queries, etc. Intermediate users should be able to design/write queries, design tables, make forms, make reports, etc. Advanced users write code to make their forms more functional -- probably intersects with Basic (see below).

For Math, symbols are divided into groups (up through high school algebra for basic -- I know there will be variety by country, but there should be some common ground), common college stuff for intermediate, and specialized notations for advanced.

For Basic, beginners should be able to import/export code, insert macro code, maybe write simple macros for a spreadsheet; intermediate level should be able to make dialogs, and pass info back and forth between code and dialogs, write apps; advanced use UNO objects to manipulate dbs, text docs, draw objects, etc.

3. Our guys produce learning materials and release them under a Creative Commons SSA (or other license, if this community has a preference) to be used by anyone wishing to deliver training in OpenOffice for little or no cost. (If someone wants to issue certificates and oversee testing quality for a small fee, I can suggest a certain customer with 3500 possible clients ;-)

OKAY, so this is a lot of going on about something most will delete. BUT if you want to help and have ideas, I'd like to hear from you. I've sent e-mails to the OO cert group addresses, but it all came back undeliverable. I have to do this to keep my company happy, but I'd like to have broad input to make the final product as relevant and as useful as possible.

I look forward to finding helpful folks with a common interest. If that's not you, thanks for indulging me by reading this far and I'd appreciate you forwarding this to anyone you think might be interested. If it IS you, I hope that what I've laid out excites you and we can get started ASAP. I've got a lot of resources to offer to get this done, but need your input.

Thanks,

Tom Goldie
tomgol...@yahoo.com
Instructor, Arizona State Prison - Kingman

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