Many thanks for the answer Regina, (thought I would be dopped to the spam folder ;) )
>Coding is not the only way to make AOO better. For example there are >always people needed to test the product, whether the new features work >as intended and whether no regressions slipped in. Also usability is a >topic for non coder, and usability is not about a single design opinion, >but making tests like the icon test in LO. actually I do report bugs, when I find some (in most cases svg stuff atm) >Currently the gradient is relative to the shape. Adjustments are done >with the Border property. With svg it is possible to define the gradient >relative to the parent of the shape and that is rendered correctly in AOO. Looking at LO4.0.4 and AOO3.4.1 the gradients are not rendered correctly. for example: on AOO3.4.1 (can't tell about newer versions) # the ellipsoid gradient (having more than 2 colors) is rendered wrongly #also the hight of the ellipsoid gradient is rendered wrongly (cause there is not option atm to set the hight/width of the gradient) on LO4.0.4 #the same but seems like the issue with ellipsoid gradients with more than 2 colors is maybe fixed in 4.1beta >Transparency is an additional feature. You can already combine >transparency with solid color (I guess from the pdf-file, that you want >that), but you can also combine transparency with gradients. You need >not even use the same kind of gradient. It seems you have not yet >discovered the property 'Gradient' in the Transparency tab of the Area >dialog. Yes, but if you look at the attachement (https://www.libreoffice.org/bugzilla/attachment.cgi?id=79272) of the bugreport I mentioned, it does not makde that much sense (imo) to use the percentage for the blackness. The transparency tab would just change the WHOLE gradient transparency. But I'd like also to set the transparency of each gradient color. >We tend to make the draw stuff more like svg. Already now it is possible >to use a svg-graphic; and its gradients are rendered nicely. +2 >Area > Gradient is already the dialog page to edit gradients. What >editing feature do you miss on that page? But keep in mind, that color >gradient and transparency are independent properties. as described above that maybe should be changed a little (allowoing also to change the transparency of each gradient color) >Besides that, changes have to be compatible with ODF or find its way in >the next version of ODF. ODF needs to update faster so it can support the important/widely used things of svg ;) As you may noticed I'm a spoiled Inkscape user who just wants to import some svg drawing into AOO/LO (at least some basic svg drawings no animation or such things) :) Kind regards bugreporter99. On 03.06.2013 at 6:35 PM, "Regina Henschel" wrote:Hi ???, bugreporte...@hushmail.com schrieb: > Dear Apache Open Office/Libre Office devs, > the reason why I'm writing is, cause I can't code and want to make OO > better. Coding is not the only way to make AOO better. For example there are always people needed to test the product, whether the new features work as intended and whether no regressions slipped in. Also usability is a topic for non coder, and usability is not about a single design opinion, but making tests like the icon test in LO. > Specially the way gradients in Draw works. At the moment the gradients > stuff is rudimentary. > Well I guess little kids may have fun with this but you can't do real > work with that. > So this HAS to be changed. > At least the following things should be added: > - possibility to use more than two colors for the gradient +1 > - set the hight and width of the gradient Currently the gradient is relative to the shape. Adjustments are done with the Border property. With svg it is possible to define the gradient relative to the parent of the shape and that is rendered correctly in AOO. > - the percentage of the color should change the transparency and not > the "blackness" of the color > https://www.libreoffice.org/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=64469 -1 Transparency is an additional feature. You can already combine transparency with solid color (I guess from the pdf-file, that you want that), but you can also combine transparency with gradients. You need not even use the same kind of gradient. It seems you have not yet discovered the property 'Gradient' in the Transparency tab of the Area dialog. > Because this will break compatibillity with older Versions of OO I > think there should be as much changes as > possible to prevent having to do big changes in the future to the > gradients stuff. > So here is my suggestion to the GUI part (pdf file: > http://temp-share.com/show/f3Ygit6Xn). > The coding part is up to you cause that's out of my scope. We tend to make the draw stuff more like svg. Already now it is possible to use a svg-graphic; and its gradients are rendered nicely. Besides that, changes have to be compatible with ODF or find its way in the next version of ODF. > I would like you guys to think about how this could be implemented and > if there is a better way to > do it on the GUI side (maybe an extra button which will pop-up an > extra window for the editing of > the gradient???). Area > Gradient is already the dialog page to edit gradients. What editing feature do you miss on that page? But keep in mind, that color gradient and transparency are independent properties. > Please fuck the licensing issues so the code can be used in both > projects. > If a developer provides his work under AL2, it can be used in both projects. So its up to the individual developer. Changes done in AOO can always be used in LO. Kind regards Regina