Many thanks for the answer Regina,

(thought I would be dopped to the spam folder ;) )

>Coding is not the only way to make AOO better. For example there are 
>always people needed to test the product, whether the new features
work 
>as intended and whether no regressions slipped in. Also usability is
a 
>topic for non coder, and usability is not about a single design
opinion, 
>but making tests like the icon test in LO.

actually I do report bugs, when I find some (in most cases svg stuff
atm)

>Currently the gradient is relative to the shape. Adjustments are done

>with the Border property. With svg it is possible to define the
gradient 
>relative to the parent of the shape and that is rendered correctly in
AOO.

 Looking at LO4.0.4 and AOO3.4.1 the gradients are not rendered
correctly.
for example:
on AOO3.4.1 (can't tell about newer versions)
  # the ellipsoid gradient (having more than 2 colors) is rendered
wrongly
  #also the hight of the ellipsoid gradient is rendered wrongly (cause
there is not option atm to set the hight/width of the gradient)
on  LO4.0.4
  #the same but seems like the issue with ellipsoid gradients with
more than 2 colors is maybe fixed in 4.1beta
>Transparency is an additional feature. You can already combine 
>transparency with solid color (I guess from the pdf-file, that you
want 
>that), but you can also combine transparency with gradients. You need

>not even use the same kind of gradient. It seems you have not yet 
>discovered the property 'Gradient' in the Transparency tab of the
Area 
>dialog.

Yes, but if you look at the attachement 
(https://www.libreoffice.org/bugzilla/attachment.cgi?id=79272) of the
bugreport I mentioned, it does not makde that much  sense (imo) to use
the percentage for the blackness. The transparency tab would just
change the WHOLE gradient transparency. But I'd like also to set the
transparency of each gradient color.
>We tend to make the draw stuff more like svg. Already now it is
possible 
>to use a svg-graphic; and its gradients are rendered nicely.

+2

>Area > Gradient is already the dialog page to edit gradients. What 
>editing feature do you miss on that page? But keep in mind, that
color 
>gradient and transparency are independent properties.

as described above that maybe should be changed a little (allowoing
also to change the transparency of each gradient color)

>Besides that, changes have to be compatible with ODF or find its way
in 
>the next version of ODF.

ODF needs to update faster so it can support the important/widely used
things of svg ;)

As you may noticed I'm a spoiled Inkscape user who just wants to
import some svg drawing into AOO/LO (at least some basic svg drawings
no animation or such things) :)

Kind regards bugreporter99.

On 03.06.2013 at 6:35 PM, "Regina Henschel"  wrote:Hi ???,

bugreporte...@hushmail.com schrieb:
> Dear Apache Open Office/Libre Office devs,
> the reason why I'm writing is, cause I can't code and want to make
OO
> better.

Coding is not the only way to make AOO better. For example there are 
always people needed to test the product, whether the new features
work 
as intended and whether no regressions slipped in. Also usability is a

topic for non coder, and usability is not about a single design
opinion, 
but making tests like the icon test in LO.

> Specially the way gradients in Draw works. At the moment the
gradients
> stuff is rudimentary.
> Well I guess little kids may have fun with this but you can't do
real
> work with that.
> So this HAS to be changed.
> At least the following things should be added:
> - possibility to use more than two colors for the gradient

+1

> - set the hight and width of the gradient

Currently the gradient is relative to the shape. Adjustments are done 
with the Border property. With svg it is possible to define the
gradient 
relative to the parent of the shape and that is rendered correctly in
AOO.

> - the percentage of the color should change the transparency and not
> the "blackness" of the color
>        https://www.libreoffice.org/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=64469

-1

Transparency is an additional feature. You can already combine 
transparency with solid color (I guess from the pdf-file, that you
want 
that), but you can also combine transparency with gradients. You need 
not even use the same kind of gradient. It seems you have not yet 
discovered the property 'Gradient' in the Transparency tab of the Area

dialog.

> Because this will break compatibillity with older Versions of OO I
> think there should be as much changes as
> possible to prevent having to do big changes in the future to the
> gradients stuff.
> So here is my suggestion to the GUI part (pdf file:
> http://temp-share.com/show/f3Ygit6Xn).
> The coding part is up to you cause that's out of my scope.

We tend to make the draw stuff more like svg. Already now it is
possible 
to use a svg-graphic; and its gradients are rendered nicely.

Besides that, changes have to be compatible with ODF or find its way
in 
the next version of ODF.

> I would like you guys to think about how this could be implemented
and
> if there is a better way to
> do it on the GUI side (maybe an extra button which will pop-up an
> extra window for the editing of
> the gradient???).

Area > Gradient is already the dialog page to edit gradients. What 
editing feature do you miss on that page? But keep in mind, that color

gradient and transparency are independent properties.

> Please fuck the licensing issues so the code can be used in both
> projects.
>

If a developer provides his work under AL2, it can be used in both 
projects. So its up to the individual developer. Changes done in AOO
can 
always be used in LO.

Kind regards
Regina

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