Hi,

small wrap-up at the top:
- nobody prefers to migrate extensions from AOO 3.4.x resp. OOo 3.x

more comments inline.

On 02.06.2013 13:17, Andrea Pescetti wrote:
On 29/05/2013 Oliver-Rainer Wittmann wrote:
On 28.05.2013 18:23, Rob Weir wrote:
Do we need to worry about the "messy" profiles that occurred from OOo
3.3.0 upgrades to AOO 3.4.0? That was when we saw spell checking
breaking, missing dictionaries, and crashes. One of the nice things
about a "clean start" with AOO 4.0 was that we avoid these kinds of
problems.
 From my point of view AOO 3.4.x users which had problems due to a
"messy" profile and had solved these problems, can migrate their profile
to AOO 4.0. AOO 3.4.x users which does not had solved their problems are
able to suppress the migration of their existing profile - see the
corresponding FirstStartWizard page for the user profile migration.

I agree with Rob here that, since we had only a few widely reported bugs
in OpenOffice 3.4.1 and one of them depended on the profile migration,
we should be rather conservative.

I agree it's better not to migrate extensions, since some of them might
not work in OpenOffice 4 and their description.xml file in most cases
will only state that they need "OpenOffice 3.0 or later".

Yes, an easy reset of the user profile would be great.

This would be a very welcome improvement. Maybe technically this could
invalidate the current profile and ask the user to restart OpenOffice,
which would start on a clean profile. This would offer a good user
experience (not optimal, since the optimal one would be triggered by a
reinstallation too), and the right moment for the cleanup would be just
after the code that checks if FirstStartWizard must be run and just
before the profile is loaded and locked (which means that the
"invalidate" bit must be set in a way that does not require profile
access but probably a simple filesystem access... OK, I'll stop here!).

Thus, I assume that the risk of a defect or a regression is low when
solving issue 122398 and 122397 for AOO 4.0, except the issue which
would be "copied" from a "messy" user profile.

This is a case to consider. So I would suggest to set the default answer
to "Don't migrate" for extra safety, especially if we don't have an easy
profile reset mechanism in place.

I agree.
But it will cause translation effort - see screenshot of FirstStartWizard migration page [1] String "...If you do not want to reuse any settings in %PRODUCTNAME %PRODUCTVERSION, unmark the check box." will be change to "...If you do want to reuse settings in %PRODUCTNAME %PRODUCTVERSION, mark the check box."


Thus, send my your AOO 3.4.x or OOo 3.x user profile in a compressed
form (.zip file or .tar.gz file or ...) or let me know, if you want
to try my builds.

If you had a build available, it would be easier for the QA volunteers
to test.


Yes, that would be the best.

I will make the changes on trunk. Then the buildbot builds and the snapshot builds can be tested. As all changes will contain the ID of the corresponding issue in the submit summary, it will be easy to revert these changes.

[1] https://issues.apache.org/ooo/attachment.cgi?id=80738


Best regards, Oliver.

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