On 6 May 2013 19:37, Rob Weir <robw...@apache.org> wrote:

> On Mon, May 6, 2013 at 1:25 PM, janI <j...@apache.org> wrote:
> > On 6 May 2013 18:27, Rob Weir <robw...@apache.org> wrote:
> >
> >> What do we need to do to test AOO 4.0 -> AOO 4.1 upgrade scenario?
> >>
> >
> > Do we already have documented procedures for the AOO 3.4.1 -> AOO 4.0
> > upgrade ?
> > (searching in wiki  for "4.0 upgrade" gives no result)
> >
> > If not I would suggest we make the documentation and test plan for the
> > 3.4.1 -> 4.0 before thinking about the next upgrade.
> >
> > One thing that really needs to be tested is a 3.4.1 danish (example)
> > installation, upgrade to a 4.0 english installation. At this point in
> time
> > I foresee a 4.0 release with less languages than 3.4.1 (with language
> > respin). The tests should include fallback scenarios for users who want
> to
> > stay with their language version.
> >
>
> Two different things:
>
> 1) The upgrade notifications.  This is triggered by an XML file we put
> on our website that the client checks, by default once a week.   For
> example, here is one of the existing update notification files:
>
>
> http://www.openoffice.org/projects/update38/ProductUpdateService/check.Update
>

ok my mistake, but I still think we should discuss this for 4.0 and not 4.1.

>
> There is a different base URL for each version, pointing to a file
> like this that lists the available upgrades for that version.
>
> Since the update checking code has changed, we should make sure we
> have good testing on that, on all platforms.  There was also talk of
> making that update check occur over SSL.  That could be done by:
>
> A) Getting an SSL certification for *.openoffice.org or for the
> specific subdomains of interest
>
> or
>
> B) Moving the update notification files over to openoffice.apache.org,
> where we can presumably just use the existing Apache certificate
>
> However we do it, we need code changes in 4.0 to accommodate this, and
> testing as well.
>

that is correct.

2) The actually install of 4.0 over AOO 3.4.1.  My impression was that
> major upgrades like this installed into a new directory and there was
> no automatic migration of settings.  If so the testing side of it
> would not be difficult.  Same for reinstalling 3.4.1 over a 4.0
> installation.  Different directories, so no conflict.
>

Well, I am not the best example, but the 3.4.1 danish spreadsheet, did not
like 4.0 english version, until I saved them in 4.0.

I am not sure if the problem is of general nature (danish->english) and
roots in the document itself.

And if installing in different directories, we need to help the user with a
cleanup possibility.

rgds
jan I.

>
> -Rob
>
>
> > +1 to testing the upgrade scenarios.
> >
> > rgds
> > jan I.
> >
> >
> >>
> >> Is it possible to put an update XML file on the server so we can
> >> trigger update checks, etc., to verify that this is working?
> >>
> >> As we know, we had some update checking crashes in AOO 3.4.1, so we
> >> really should try to get some test coverage of both positive and
> >> negative checks.  Maybe one locale (English) we say there is an
> >> update, and in another locale (German) we say there is no update, so
> >> we can exercise both paths?
> >>
> >> Of course, we would then need to remove the test file from the web
> >> server before we ship.
> >>
> >> -Rob
> >>
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