On 22 April 2013 17:48, Rob Weir <robw...@apache.org> wrote:

> On Mon, Apr 22, 2013 at 11:27 AM, Jürgen Schmidt <jogischm...@gmail.com
> >wrote:
>
> > Hi,
> >
> > we are moving forward to the next release and if we want have a new logo
> > as part of this release we have to push the necessary work.
> >
> > It will require some work to integrate a new logo, new icons etc. in the
> > release. I would like to propose a deadline of May 17th for a final new
> > logo. If we can't agree on a new one we will move forward with the old
> > one and move the logo UI refresh to 4.1.
> >
> > I believe we all want a new logo ready for AOO 4.0 and if we really want
> > to achieve this goal, we have to move forward quite fast now. So let us
> > focus on a decision here asap that we can start with the further work on
> > file icons, app icons...
> >
> > We still have a lot of work in front of us to fix existing issues,
> > implement the last missing bits and to stabilize the code. The logo is
> > only one part and we can move this to later as well. More important is
> > that we agree on something really nice and that we can use for some time
> > in the future to improve our brand recognition. Our existing orb logo is
> > of course not bad and we can continue with it as well if we don't find a
> > better one. Maybe simply a refresh of the existing one is a good move
> > for now. A new source graphic (svg) +  an open source font.
> >
> > What is our expectation or guess when we will have something where we
> > can work with?
> >
> >
>
> It would be easy put a poll up on http://survey.openoffice.org to gather
> feedback on the current proposals.  I started to investigate what would be
> required to do this.   A few challenges I ran into:
>
That is a real super idea. And if we can group the responses (users,
designers....)


>
> 1) It is not obvious what the proposals actually are.  We have have many
> nice designs, but they are on different wiki pages, e.g.,:
>
>
> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/OOOUSERS/AOO+4.x+-+Logo+Explorations
>
> But also subpages of:
>
>
> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/OOOUSERS/AOO4+-+Complete+Design+Proposals
>

Is it possible to collect all the active proposals and put them direct in
the survey...if it gets too many, we can make a preselection round ?


>
> 2) Several designs posted many small variations on the same base idea.   Do
> we want to poll all of them or have the designer pick a representative one?
>
I would suggest that the respective designers forward their final proposal
in max. 2 variants.


>
> 3) Some designs are pure "logo" like what we would put on the website.
> Others are more elaborate treatments, something appropriate for the splash
> screen.  In some cases the designer provided both, but sometimes only one.
> What exactly do we want to poll?
>
the new logo must be useable all over...from documentation to code.


>
> 4) The designs are all presented in different sizes.  Unless we resize
> things to similar size the poll itself would be quite ugly.  I could resise
> the bitmaps of course, but that could lead to lower quality compared to the
> designer rendering it from their original.
>
If you set a size, and we ask the designers to provide that...would that
work ?


>
> In any case, I'm happy to set up the poll, but I need to know what exactly
> we are polling.
>
I am still the opinion...that we need to select a "complete" logo, meaning
a "thing" we can use for all our activities...and that is what we should
poll for. Depending on the amount it might be an idea to do a preselect
poll.


>
> Note:  this would not be a "vote".  I was thinking of just showing each of
> the logos and then asking the viewer to rate each one on a scale of 1 to
> 10.   Then we can focus on refining the choice(s) that rate highest.
>
+1

rgds
Jan I.

>
> -Rob
>
>
>
> > Juergen
> >
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