On Thu, Mar 14, 2013 at 9:18 AM, Jörg Schmidt <joe...@j-m-schmidt.de> wrote: >> But it might be a valuable source of feedback, among >> other sources. > > So maybe some kind of (a little bit) bond? In this respect, we agree that the > desire for feedback only makes sense if one is willing to consider this > feedback. > > (Please, this is not an accusation, because I'm sure the feedback is taken > into account - I just wanted to say once how one can understand, namely as > binding to wishes of the users.) > >> I'm not sure votes from 2002 are the most accurate way of determining >> what users want. > > I do not know that. I noticed only the number of votes as I was reading the > issue. > >> Maybe they are not so much aware of voting? > > yes, possible. > >> I had the >> impression that previously voting was more "political", >> and users >> would lobby for votes on mailing lists, etc. > > yes, that is should be so. But it is not always negative, because lobbying > can be useful. >
But if only a small minority of users know about voting, and we have a large collection of ancient votes, then the votes are less meaningful and relevant. That's my main concern. I don't believe that the vote counts necessarily reflect current reality. Look at the requests we received when we did the Google Moderator feedback requests. To me that is more meaningful, since it is more current. One way to improve this might be to remind users about voting via a blog post. If we have more users involved in voting it becomes more meaningful. Maybe even wipe out old votes, so we are looking at actual current user wants. Then make votes more visible by creating periodic reports on issues with the most votes. And when we fix an issue that had a lot of votes, maybe we blog about that. -Rob >> IMHO, there is what users really want, which is something abstract >> which we can only know imperfectly. > > I agree with you completely here. At the same time I think it is important > that we try to develop skills in order to better understand user. > > I say this because I am someone who can program, but not a programmer however > in a literal sense, and I'm also someone of something of the mindset of users > understood, without which I would be an expert in public relations. > >> When I bought my first house, and finally got out of an apartment, I >> had the opportunity to have a big garden. I always wanted to have my >> own garden, to grow what I wanted, to experiment with new plants, to >> do everything I always wanted to do. So I made a big garden: flowers, >> vegetables, berries, fruit trees, etc., 3000 square feet of garden. >> >> But by the middle of the summer the weeds started growing. At first I >> was outside every day fighting the weeds. I tried all the recommended >> techniques, but it was still labor intensive. Eventually the weeds >> won. Why? My garden was too big for the resources I had. >> >> I remember how good I felt in March and April, planting all the >> flowers, as well as how bad I felt in August when looking at all the >> weeds. >> >> The secret of gardening is picking the right size garden, no bigger >> than one that you can successfully maintain. > > Yes, a very illustrative description. > > by the way: I enjoy gardening. > > > > Greetings, > Jörg > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org > For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@openoffice.apache.org > --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@openoffice.apache.org
