On 2/22/13 6:00 AM, Louis Suárez-Potts wrote:
> Hi,
> 
> On 13-02-21, at 20:58 , Rob Weir <robw...@apache.org> wrote:
> 
>> http://www.techdrivein.com/2012/12/top-5-kickstarter-crowdfunding-alternatives-opensource-software.html
>>
>> It would be interesting to consider to what degree a service like this
>> can be used by the broader AOO community.
>>
>> Maybe one way to think of it is this:
>>
>> -- We are currently comfortable have a webpage listing consults who
>> offer services to users related to OpenOffice.  We don't endorse them,
>> and all transactions are between the consultants and their customers.
>> The ASF is not involved.
>>
>> -- It would be analogous to offer a similar link to a crowd-funding
>> website, with no endorsement, but as a service to the ecosystem.
>> Also, all transactions are between the developers and the users.  The
>> ASF is not involved.
>>
>> Thoughts?  Does anyone have experience with services like these?
>>
>> -Rob
> 
> Two responses.
> 
> 1. Early in OOo I had the idea of listing developers as you describe. This 
> was about 2002 or so, and the market was fairly young, but there was 
> definitely potential. The issue was that our extensions market was very 
> undeveloped then. It has grown a lot since. But at the time, little was done 
> in this way, though I set up several avenues with then-current dev. sites.
> 
> Why are extensions useful, as a  means of community expansion and ecosystem 
> development? Because as we have long known, working on extensions is likely 
> easier for most than other elements of the code; extensions, one can 
> speculate, probably demand less mentoring than so-called core development. As 
> we've long known, expanding the community via extensions/add-ons is a quick 
> and efficient way to do it—and it's a pattern that several other large 
> projects follow. 
> 
> In terms of the actual mechanisms… I can point to several but within Apache? 
> Or outside? And I can query directly on the Foss lists. (/louis waves at all 
> those who may read this who are also subscribed to those lists I refer to.)
> 
> 
> 2. I hesitate to once again introduce the discussion about establishing a 
> marketing effort outside of Apache (or not) that could also be funded by the 
> kindness of crowds, if not strangers. Briefly, I think being as local as one 
> can be offers a solution, so that all that a "central" Apache OO would 
> provide would be the consensual message of our value as a project within 
> Apache and the value of the application.
> 
> louis
> 

the OSBA does exactly something like this with their initiative to
organize and sponsor a development project for OOXML improvement. A
project description, a public call for bids, a selection, contracts and go.

Ok the point that this project were not optimal from a OpenOffice
perspective is a different story. But the example have shown that it can
work and everybody can start doing it.

Juergen


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