On 04.02.2013 12:55, Regina Henschel wrote:
Hi Andre,
Andre Fischer schrieb:
Hi,
Development of the sidebar is progressing well. It already looks a lot
like the mockups posted by Xin Li on December 18th [1]. I have
concentrated on the underlying framework, so there is only one partially
migrated panel so far. Nevertheless the framework is now flexible
enough to think about the default color scheme to use. There are
developer builds [2] and an extension that allow live evaluation of the
nine different color schemes from [1].
I would like to ask you to either look at the mockups at [1] or try the
developer builds [2] and tell me what color scheme you like best.
I like best the version 2A. But I think the gradient should be the
opposite direction, from light at the top to dark at the bottom. A
light is expected to come from top right, therefore the lighter color
should be at the top and on the left side of an object.
I think that we should base our choice on whether it looks good or not,
OpenOffice is not a physical simulation.
The drop-down-triangles have the right direction for the gradient.
And the gradient of the background of the toolbars has the opposite
direction.
I do not like the line separators. The take place without any use.
No, they don't. The line separators between the tool box buttons do not
affect the size of the buttons nor of the tool boxes.
I normally remove this separator lines in our current toolbars.
General information about the sidebar, the current state of development
and how to help can be found in the wiki [3].
Thanks in advance for you help,
Andre
I have download your Windows build and played with it beyond the
design. I know, it is work in progress, but I see:
- If you drag the pane smaller, some elements become unaccessible. The
elements should rearrange and/or the pane needs a scrollbar.
I agree. But that functionality does not yet exist in the Symphony panels.
- If you set the UI scaling to 130% (and restart!), you see that the
margin between the button bars becomes wider. That is ugly and wasted
place, because the buttons bars itself are not extended. Our current
toolbars arrange the buttons in rows, without a margin between them,
and therefore there is no margins, which can increase. That is more
useful. You do not have always large screens, but have to consider
netbooks and tablets as well.
I agree, that this should be addressed. But fixing this would require a
much more complex layouting of the panels.
- The icon size is always small, although the general setting is
"large icons", even after restart.
I am not sure which icons you are referring to. The choice of icons is
still subject to change.
- If the side bar is undocked, the row of the title bar still exists
and the window title is empty. The title bar should be removed in
undocked state and the title moved to the window title bar.
I made this change some days ago. In the next developer build this will
be fixed.
- The title bar has vertical dots on the left side, which normally
indicate, that this part can be dragged around. But that is not the
case here and therefore no dots should be shown.
This works well on my machine, but this is a developer build and may
not work on others.
- Between the menu icon and the other tab buttons in the tab bar is a
separator line. It is not necessary, because the menu icon has nearly
always a border.
I don't agree. The role of the menu button is very different from that
of the deck buttons. Also, the menu button is a check box while the
deck buttons are radio buttons, so their behaviour is different.
I am not sure what border you are referring to. The current design of
the buttons, which is likely to change, only have a border while being
selected.
For the menu button that is only the case while the menu is being shown.
- Cycling with F6 seems to hit the side bar, but nothing there gets
active.
I will work on focus traveling when the overall design has settled.
- That is likely an effect of the draft state, but if in Impress the
current task pane is closed and I click on the "Animation" tab in the
tab bar of the side bar, AOO crashes.
The Impress panels are not yet supported. I am currently working on that.
Kind regards
Regina
Thank you for your looking at this.
-Andre
