On 31 January 2013 16:29, Herbert Dürr <h...@apache.org> wrote: > On 31.01.2013 15:55, janI wrote: > >> but it still highlight the problem I had in the beginning...our wiki has >> really much valuable information, but to an extent it is shadowed by >> identical information which are not maintained. >> >> I searched for ubuntu build instruction way back, and as you can imagine >> got confused. Thx. to the brilliant help from this list I got it up and >> running. >> >> I hope we in the short future can get our wiki a bit streamlined (I am not >> thinking about removing information, but simply mark it as outdated, with >> a >> link to the newer information. >> > > I totally agree and try to do it whenever I stumble over something like > this. I'd also suggest to reuse pages even if they contain obsoleted > content. If their title is general purpose, is linked to from many other > places and easily findable then updating them is a better solution IMHO. If > anyone needs to access their older outdated content it is good to know that > it is still available via Wiki's wonderful page history feature. > > > @herbert regarding buildbot, I can see your point and agree with it. >> However I still think we should document exactly how our binary >> distributables are made. I have actually not been able to produce an exact >> match yet where I have tried. When people want to play with the system it >> is nice to have a stable start like rebuilding the release and the same >> result. >> > > For the exact configuration switches please see the page [1] I linked to > in my previous mail. To create an exact match on Linux you'd have to > install the "oldest common denominator" system that is used to build > releases. We can ask Ariel to provide all the glorious details of this > system, AFAIK they are plain RHEL5 and RHEL6, right? > > These old systems are great for building maximum-compatibility releases, > but IMHO they are not much fun For developing. I personally love having > up-to-date versions of gdb, valgrind, perf-tools, git-svn, btrfs snapshots, > KVM/virtualbox, python, etc. but maybe that's just my personal disposition. > > [1] https://cwiki.apache.org/**confluence/display/OOOUSERS/** > Development+Snapshot+Builds#**DevelopmentSnapshotBuilds-**buildflags<https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/OOOUSERS/Development+Snapshot+Builds#DevelopmentSnapshotBuilds-buildflags> > Herbert I totally agree and use newer versions of a lot, however I have one VM that I try to keep compareable to buildbot, and when I one of my (seldom) commits I run a test there first.
Also for "bug" finders, it is important (I think) to test with the same version. I wrote it a bit badly, by my idea was to do as you do today, document the build with new tool, and then in parallel mention that for a compatiable build you would need xxxx, after all it boils down to getting libraries and configure. And I am sure Arial could keep us updated on that (That is easier than answering the questions multiple times in here). > > I'm looking forward to see and talk to you on FOSDEM this weekend! > I look a lot forward to talk to you, and others who have helped me a lot during my startup. However I will not be on FOSDEM, that was decided about a month ago, mainly due to some (for me) bad discussions in here, which at that time caused me to reconsider the level of my commitment. Today I have found my commitment, which is more behind the scenes, like updating wiki. have a nice conference Jan I > Herbert >
