On 09/22/2012 04:10 AM, Wolf Halton wrote:
On Wed, Sep 12, 2012 at 2:16 PM, David McKay <dmc...@btconnect.com> wrote:
On 12/09/12 19:02, Kay Schenk wrote:
On 09/11/2012 02:50 AM, Oliver-Rainer Wittmann wrote:
Hi,
On 11.09.2012 07:51, Dave Fisher wrote:
Hi,
We have a code of conduct here:
http://incubator.apache.org/openofficeorg/list-conduct.html
These are the community's code and we should all agree to abide by the
code. Maybe there is some more work to do exposing the code. Maybe
the code needs to be modified.
Graduation requires the project to be self-governing. What do people
think? I think we should discuss a few topics.
(1) What are the consequences of breaking the code of conduct?
- Loss of merit in the community including the possibility of losing
any karma in the project. Karma is the ability to make commits.
- Banning from the list. Moderators will need to treat offenders like
spammers.
(2) Who is responsible for enforcing the code?
- it should be enforced by anyone who sees it happening. In most cases
a reminder will be enough.
- what if they won't stop? who is next? If the PPMC is working it
should be noticed, but if not then probably a note to ooo-private.
(3) How do we expose the code?
- we have unsubscribe links on ooo-users, we could add a link to the
policy.
(4) Should we update the code?
- the code should be edited to include the information decided for (1)
and (2)
- anything else?
Please feel free to elaborate.
Let's leave this open for a week to discuss. No need to hurry.
I also think that we should use these code of conduct as guidelines
instead of strict rules.
From my point of view, we should make clear that certain consequences -
like to one mentioned above - may occur in case of repeated violation.
As I do not want that something like this will happen in the future I
think we can save the time now to discuss the consequences in detail and
for every case. We just have to make clear the possible consequences and
that we will decide on case-by-case.
Best regards, Oliver.
I too believe these were basically constructed as behavior guidelines, and
not enforceable codes/regulations. Andrea's comments also seem worthwhile.
Yes, that's the case. Wolf and I worked on them, as a desired code of
behaviour and consideration, we were trying to avoid the 'list of rules' way
of doing it. But maybe we need something a little different?
Dave.
I think it would be advantageous for the ASF (as a whole) to adopt and
publish expected Codes of Conduct.
I see from:
http://community.apache.org/newbiefaq.html#NewbieFAQ-IsthereaCodeofConductforApacheprojects?
that this seems to be project specific and I wonder why.
So, some examples...
General participation, and consequences:
http://opensourcebridge.org/about/code-of-conduct/
http://www.kde.org/code-of-conduct/
More specifics for Board Members (toward the bottom):
http://opensource.org/minutes20100505
We wrote them as guidelines at least partly because we do not have
"power to arrest." Presuming we are (generally) all friends here, a
gentle, nudge should be all that is required.
Wolf
Regarding the actual subject of this old thread.
Should this particular page in question:
http://openoffice.apache.org/list-conduct.html
be renamed as "Code of Conduct" and given more prominence on the project
website? Like perhaps a link under the "Community " area?
It would of course still be linked from the Mailing Lists page.
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MzK
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