On Mon, Dec 3, 2012 at 2:35 AM, janI <j...@apache.org> wrote:

> I agree on a lot of the things.
>
> BUT do not forget that a lot of questions/problems also applies to an
> upgrade.
>
> - User interface will change slightly
> - Data loss is not acceptlable but the UTF8 conversion might have a side
> effect on some browsers
> - The tweaks in the current mwiki, will not automatically be present after
> an upgrade.
>

Which tweaks?


> - we do not know if the extensions will work (in the same way) in the new
> version.
>

Have you done the research or you are just speculating? Which extensions
hasn't been updated to the current version? any similar extension?


> - there are no "the wiki", there are and will always be different systems
> out there.
>

For the most part mediawiki is the most popular wiki out there and it's
markup the more widely spread among floss projects that I know off.


>
> The argument about the text is very valid, but I think that the new version
> also offers new facilities, and hope that all old facilities are unchanged
> (but there are no quarantees).
>
> My intention was simply to make the community aware of the possibility.
> Because at this point in time I see the upgrade as also being quite a
> hurdle.
>
> Jan I.
>
> On 3 December 2012 06:49, C <smau...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > On Sun, Dec 2, 2012 at 11:35 PM, janI <j...@apache.org> wrote:
> > > JSPwiki just announced a new version:
> > >
> > > http://incubator.apache.org/jspwiki/
> > >
> > > since it is a apache project, should we consider upgrading to jspwiki
> > > instead of continuing with mediawiki ?
> > >
> > > The upgrade will almost for sure be harder, but to me it seems
> beneficial
> > > to use products from our own "family", that way we help them and they
> > > hopefully help us. I am also confident that it can be done without data
> > > loss, which is an absolute no-go to me, we will not accept data loss.
> > >
> > > If it is decided to go down this path, I will contact jspWiki and get
> > > involved with their work so we have a real influence on how the wiki
> > > software evolves (especially in regard of spam control).
> >
> > While certainly possible to convert from one wiki syntax to another,
> > it's no small feat... and that's if the source wiki uses only standard
> > syntax for the source Wiki.
> >
> > The current MediWiki implementation has a significant number of pages
> > that rely on extensions for their content. To have a successful
> > conversion, you are looking at needing to rewrite thousands of Wiki
> > pages.  Not necessarily to have 1:1 conversion, but simply to ensure
> > that the information is still presented in a logical manner (I'm
> > thinking of the documentation pages for example).
> >
> > Before anyone should really consider this, you need to gather up a
> > sizable collection of dedicated volunteers who are willing to sift
> > through every wiki page and validate the content, fix the broken
> > content, correct conversion errors, and reconnect the information
> > flow.
> >
> > You also will need to account for custom written extensions and the
> > functionality (although simple) they provide.
> >
> > It's a very big job to convert even a small number of pages....
> >
> > Clayton
> >
>



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Alexandro Colorado
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