Hi,

On 18.11.2012 03:26, Peter Junge wrote:
I haven't yet heard about the community session at the ApacheCon EU. How did it 
go?


The community sessions went quite well from my point of view.

Sorry, that I did not share the notes which I had taken during the sessions earlier. Here they are (incl. call for reviewing them):

<notes>
collected topics for BoF
-- challenges to AOO community culture to the Apache's one
-- producing end-user software at Apache
-- building the AOO community
--- individuals – who to bring them into
--- external groups – like companies
-- evangelizing AOO

experiences, views, opinions, …
a collection of statements made by the participants:
- observed behavior: “first decide to go with open-source, then revert decision”
-- observed reasons:
--- reliability of open source vs “safety by paying license fees and having support”?
--- political driven decisions
- AOO has a big user base, but this user base is missing the possibility to influence the project directly -- need for external, full-time developer (or better contributor) via which the user base can express its will
-- need for mentoring for starters to become consultants
-- step in this direction: recognize 'external' consultants at the projects
- more 'marketing', being visible – not typical for an Apache project
-- need of marketing material
-- use the available fund
-- reach out to ASF to get supported
--- clarification on a may be negative reply from ASF:
---- if there does not exist a “way” at ASF then work it out and reach out again
- attracting the future developers/contributors – students, teenagers, …
- think about “do not create an end-user product, but create the 'basis' to enable the ecosystem to create 'different' end-user products'. “powered by Apache” is already a quality symbol.
-- request: 'take this thought seriously'
- 'way' to create a portable version of AOO and use the name/trademark 'Apache OpenOffice'
-- work it out and reach out to PMC
-- clarification: PMC has to assure that the trademark is for public good and that the trademark is defended.
- question: should the marketing contributors drive the project?
- experience: 'joined OpenOffice because of the need to have free office suite for professional purposes' → Thus, having a product available is welcome, may be a must.

groups inside the AOO community
discussion on how “sub groups” could work in AOO project:
- there are/will be native-language groups, documentation group, ...
- how to handle these?
-- dedicated mailing lists, esp. for native-language groups
-- organizing
--- one view:
---- dedicated contacts are needed
---- reporting structure to community
--- other view:
---- acting and reporting as a group

high-level goals for the future
the following goals are mentioned by the one or the other particapant:
be in the Linux distributions
- double number of released languages
- be in Apple and Windows AppStore
- improve Accessibility support
- improve interoperability with Microsoft Office documents
- ...
</notes>


Best regards, Oliver.

Thanks in advance,
Peter

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