On Thu, Nov 15, 2012 at 2:44 AM, Andrea Pescetti <pesce...@apache.org> wrote: > On 11/11/2012 Kay Schenk wrote: >> >> On 11/11/2012 04:22 AM, Andrea Pescetti wrote: >>> >>> >>> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/OOOUSERS/Development+Snapshot+Builds >>> (they are also called "with/without system integration" respectively). >> >> >> OK, I see this note and I confess I don't pay much attention to it, and >> typically install in parallel for these. But, I keep the same "user >> profile" if you will, and this doesn't seem to cause problems for me. >> >> Right now this note says: >> "This week's builds are built without system integration." >> Is the the "normal"? > > > What is "normal" highly depends on the status of the builds we are > providing. For ordinary snapshots, "without system integration" is normal > because they will co-exist with a stable version and be updated frequently; > this would be the case for a beta release too, but as we approach release we > will want to test system integration too and the "normal" snapshot will have > system integration enabled. This is agreed on a case-by-case basis when we > start building. >
Question: the bugs that we're seeing related to profile conversion/upgrading, is that something that would only have been caught when testing with system integration enabled? Hopefully my point is obvious -- we can't test and find system integration bugs unless we have system integration builds. Real testers today are using virtual machines. So the install side-by-side problem is not a real problem. But not having something that is as-close-as-possible to what we plan to ship -- that is a real problem. -Rob > Regards, > Andrea.