Rob, very good post, thanks
2012/11/8 Kevin Grignon <kevingrignon...@gmail.com> > > > On Nov 7, 2012, at 9:31 PM, Rob Weir <robw...@apache.org> wrote: > > > On Tue, Nov 6, 2012 at 10:15 PM, Kevin Grignon > > <kevingrignon...@gmail.com> wrote: > >> Rob, > >> > >> Beyond functional test and unit testing, can we perform some system > >> testing, based on core usage scenarios? > >> > > > > > > How we divide things is somewhat arbitrary but I think this kind of > > scenario testing is most typically a product design function. For > > example, you could the some of the same kind of testing with a paper > > prototype. > > > > But one idea, if you want to push the UX/design side of this forward > > is to follow the model we're doing with QA and Localization: > > > > 1) Ask yourself, if in 1 week you could have 5 new UX volunteers, of > > various skill levels, what could they do *now*? > > > > 2) Prepare one or more pages on the website or wiki that list things > > they could get involved in. > > > > 3) Since most would be new to Apache you probably also wold want to > > connect this into the Orientation work: > > http://incubator.apache.org/openofficeorg/orientation/ > > > > 4) Maybe it is time for a UX-specific mailing list? > > > > 5) Prepare a blog post that we can promote a UX Call for Volunteers > > > > Key observation: when we do a call for volunteers, people will > > volunteer in a staggered pattern, some on day one, some on day 2, some > > a week later, some two weeks later, etc. You will go crazy if you > > have explain the same basic things on the list, over and over again. > > So getting the common questions that everyone will have onto the > > website is key. That is the purpose of orientation. > > > > I'm hoping we can take this general approach and refine it based on > > experience with QA and L10N then apply it more broadly to other areas > > of the project, including UX, Market, Dev, Website, etc. > > > > -Rob > > > > > > Good stuff. Thanks for sharing. This aligns with my initial thoughts and > provides some great recommendations to move forward. > > > > > > >> This is a great way to get more non-technical people involved. > Validating > >> the system's ability to realize our core usage scenarios is really > >> important. > >> > >> This also means we need to crank up the survey effort, where I was > working > >> on deploying a top task validation survey. Ultimately, we need to > capture > >> our core usage scenarios in a single, trusted source for all > stakeholders > >> to reference moving forward. > >> > >> Regards, > >> Kevin > >> > >> > >> > >> On Wed, Nov 7, 2012 at 6:31 AM, Kay Schenk <kay.sch...@gmail.com> > wrote: > >> > >>> On Tue, Nov 6, 2012 at 8:32 AM, Rob Weir <robw...@apache.org> wrote: > >>> > >>>> > >>> > https://blogs.apache.org/preview/OOo/?previewEntry=you_can_help_us_improve > >>>> > >>>> If anyone has other ideas for the list of reasons to help with QA, > let me > >>>> know. > >>>> > >>>> But in general it looks like we're ready to start a major recruitment > >>>> effort for QA. We can probably do something similar for localization > >>>> soon as well. > >>>> > >>>> -Rob > >>>> > >>> > >>> oK, this is good. My one comment would be to link to *some page* on > "Apache > >>> OpenOffice 4.0" that contains information on what this release will > >>> provide. I would think the more volunteers felt it was worthwhile, the > >>> more likely they would be to help with QA. > >>> > >>> Looking forward to the final draft. > >>> > >>> -- > >>> > >>> > ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- > >>> MzK > >>> > >>> "Anyone who considers protocol unimportant has never > >>> dealt with a cat." > >>> -- Robert Heinlein > >>> > -- Thanks & Best Regards, Yan Ji