Click previous versions - it takes you were you have options.   You don't need 
the options on the home page IMO.

Cheers,
Ruppert
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On Dec 7, 2009, at 3:51 PM, David E Jones wrote:

> 
> The point is we need more than one so people can choose, and are more aware 
> that there is a choice.
> 
> -David
> 
> 
> On Dec 7, 2009, at 2:13 PM, Tim Ruppert wrote:
> 
>> Most of the major projects have a big DOWNLOAD button - it's a good idea - 
>> and I'd be surprised if a call to action does not encourage more people to 
>> download.
>> 
>> Cheers,
>> Ruppert
>> --
>> Tim Ruppert
>> HotWax Media
>> http://www.hotwaxmedia.com
>> 
>> o:801.649.6594
>> f:801.649.6595
>> 
>> On Dec 7, 2009, at 12:55 PM, Jacques Le Roux wrote:
>> 
>>> From: "David E Jones" <d...@me.com>
>>>> I suppose we are shameless optimists and hope that people will choose to 
>>>> collaborate with other people using the software, and perhaps even 
>>>> participate in the development.
>>>> 
>>>> Still, I agree the big download button is a bad design and I never liked 
>>>> it given that there are various options to download and personally I like 
>>>> the idea of making people make choices... ;)
>>> 
>>> If number of people don't like it, then it should be discussed
>>> 
>>> Jacques
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>>> 
>>>> -David
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> On Dec 7, 2009, at 11:28 AM, Ruth Hoffman wrote:
>>>> 
>>>>> HI David:
>>>>> If that resource is the "definitive" answer, then why does that "BIG FAT 
>>>>> DOWNLOAD" button/link point to a "trunk" build? Shouldn't it point to a 
>>>>> "release branch tag" build with a good probability of working?
>>>>> Am I missing something here?
>>>>> Am I not reading all this information correctly?
>>>>> Why does that button point to a build using Java 1.6 when that couldn't 
>>>>> possibly be a build that has any history of testing behind it..you just 
>>>>> started using Java 1.6 after all.
>>>>> 
>>>>> TIA
>>>>> Ruth
>>>>> 
>>>>> David E Jones wrote:
>>>>>> This page might be helpful, and answers the more general question behind 
>>>>>> the question:
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> http://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/OFBADMIN/Apache+OFBiz+Getting+Started
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> -David
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> On Dec 7, 2009, at 11:05 AM, Ruth Hoffman wrote:
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Hi Anil:
>>>>>>> I feel like I'm spitting in the wind here...Please, let's just start 
>>>>>>> this conversation over again. Under the following circumstances, which 
>>>>>>> version or release of OFBiz should I use?
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> I'm a new user and I want to customize my OFBiz instance for a new ERP 
>>>>>>> deployment.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> TIA
>>>>>>> Ruth
>>>>>>> Find me on the web at http://www.myofbiz.com or Google Keyword "myofbiz"
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Anil Patel wrote:
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> Ruth,
>>>>>>>> Why don't you consider using one of the release branches?
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> Thanks and Regards
>>>>>>>> Anil Patel
>>>>>>>> HotWax Media Inc
>>>>>>>> Find us on the web at www.hotwaxmedia.com or Google Keyword "ofbiz"
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> On Dec 7, 2009, at 10:06 AM, Ruth Hoffman wrote:
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> Hi Scott:
>>>>>>>>> Then stop the committing and do some reviewing. There is more to 
>>>>>>>>> software development than committing code to a repository.
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> This is interesting perspective. Trunk is expected to remain active. 
>>>>>>>> New development must continue. For the people who needs more stable 
>>>>>>>> version we do have release branch.
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> Regards,
>>>>>>>>> Ruth
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> Scott Gray wrote:
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> On 7/12/2009, at 10:22 PM, Jeroen van der Wal wrote:
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> Thank you Jacques for addressing this as this situation worries me
>>>>>>>>>>> too. Although I think the power of the Ofbiz community can handle it
>>>>>>>>>>> :-)
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> My suggestions would be:
>>>>>>>>>>> - Assign volunteers and a lead to each of the components. They can
>>>>>>>>>>> watch issues of their components and should can be consulted if
>>>>>>>>>>> anybody wants to make changes in their neighbourhood.
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> We already have these volunteers, they're called people who review 
>>>>>>>>>> commits and I could probably count them on one hand.
>>>>>>>>>> Everything you've suggested requires more resources than this 
>>>>>>>>>> community can provide.
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> - Work bottom up: start with the framework, then the core modules
>>>>>>>>>>> (party, product, accounting, workeffort, manufactureing, order) and
>>>>>>>>>>> finally the specialpurpose modules (I personally consider humanres 
>>>>>>>>>>> and
>>>>>>>>>>> marketing to be specialpurpose)
>>>>>>>>>>> - Communicate changes to dependent components so they can sanitize
>>>>>>>>>>> their components
>>>>>>>>>>> - Don't allow code without tests
>>>>>>>>>>> - Use branching for work in progress to maintain a stable trunk (I
>>>>>>>>>>> prefer Git over SVN but that's another topic...)
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> I'm a big fan of branching, this explains why:
>>>>>>>>>>> - Code each task (or related set of tasks) in its own branch, then 
>>>>>>>>>>> you
>>>>>>>>>>> will have the flexibility of when you would like to merge these 
>>>>>>>>>>> tasks
>>>>>>>>>>> and perform a release.
>>>>>>>>>>> - QA should be done on each branch before it is merged to the trunk.
>>>>>>>>>>> - By doing QA on each individual branch, you will know exactly what
>>>>>>>>>>> caused the bug easier.
>>>>>>>>>>> - This solution scales to any number of developers.
>>>>>>>>>>> - This method works since branching is an almost instant operation 
>>>>>>>>>>> in SVN.
>>>>>>>>>>> - Tag each release that you perform.
>>>>>>>>>>> - You can develop features that you don't plan to release for a 
>>>>>>>>>>> while
>>>>>>>>>>> and decide exactly when to merge them.
>>>>>>>>>>> - For all work you do, you can have the benefit of committing your
>>>>>>>>>>> code. If you work out of the trunk only, you will probably keep your
>>>>>>>>>>> code uncommitted a lot, and hence unprotected and without automatic
>>>>>>>>>>> history.
>>>>>>>>>>> If you try to do the opposite and do all your development in the 
>>>>>>>>>>> trunk
>>>>>>>>>>> you'll be plagged by:
>>>>>>>>>>> - Constant build problems for daily builds
>>>>>>>>>>> - Productivity loss when a a developer commits a problem for all 
>>>>>>>>>>> other
>>>>>>>>>>> people on the project
>>>>>>>>>>> - Longer release cycles, because you need to finally get a stable 
>>>>>>>>>>> version
>>>>>>>>>>> - Less stable releases
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> Best,
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> Jeroen van der Wal
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> On Sat, Dec 5, 2009 at 8:51 PM, Jacques Le Roux
>>>>>>>>>>> <jacques.le.r...@les7arts.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>> Hi,
>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>> I'd like to express a feeling I have. Actually it's not only my 
>>>>>>>>>>>> own feeling but also something some users have expressed recently.
>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>> I'm quite happy to see that these last times a lot of effort have 
>>>>>>>>>>>> been made in order to fix OFBiz (yes to fix OFBiz!)
>>>>>>>>>>>> It's really great to see new features in OFBiz. But I really 
>>>>>>>>>>>> wonder if we should not slow down the pace in integrating new 
>>>>>>>>>>>> features for a short period of time and should not make and even 
>>>>>>>>>>>> greatest effort to have a more stable OFBiz.
>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>> There are 180 bugs opened in Jira. Don't you think it's time for 
>>>>>>>>>>>> the community to have a look at them and to fix the most important 
>>>>>>>>>>>> ones (109 are considered as at least important) ?
>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>> Thanks
>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>> Jacques
>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>> 
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