Since we run the demo sites out of containers, in my opinion, the VM
operating system is not too important, at least to a certain extent.

Installing and patching the OS is really a concern of INFRA. If we want to
move to newer OS, we should request a new VM with INFRA-preferred OS
already installed. We would then deploy the demo sites to the new VM and
then update DNS to reference the new VM.  We would then hand back the older
VM to INFRA.

We shouldn't manually update the OS on the existing VM. Remember VMs should
be cattle, not pets! :)

It could also be time to run  a project to automatically deploy the demo
sites, perhaps using Ansible or integrating with INFRA's Puppet deployment.

Daniel Watford

https://watfordconsulting.com
<https://protect-eu.mimecast.com/s/n2QFCVVyf2vLXvhGoNoa/>

On Tue, Jul 29, 2025, 4:11 PM Ashish Vijaywargiya <
ashish.vijaywarg...@hotwaxsystems.com> wrote:

> >> Maybe we need to upgrade Ubuntu (currently 20.04.6 LTS) to latest LTS,
> ie 24.04...
>
> Hello Jacques,
>
> I highly recommend first going with Ubuntu 22.04.
> It's very stable and we recently upgraded most of our on-premise and
> on-cloud servers from Ubuntu 20.04 to Ubuntu 22.04.
> And we haven't faced any major issues from this(20.04 to 22.04) upgrade.
>
> https://ubuntu.com/about/release-cycle
>
> At the start of new year 2027, we could start a discussion of upgrading the
> server from Ubuntu 22.04 to Ubuntu 24.04.
>
> Next few months will give us some time to have better applications(Docker
> container bases and internal applications that depend on specific library
> versions) compatibility with Ubuntu 24.04.
>
> Let's see what others say about it.
>
> Thank you.
>
> --
> Kind Regards,
> Ashish Vijaywargiya
> Vice President of Operations
> *HotWax Systems*
> *Enterprise open source experts*
> http://www.hotwaxsystems.com
>
>
>
>
> On Tue, Jul 29, 2025 at 5:24 PM Jacques Le Roux <
> jacques.le.r...@les7arts.com> wrote:
>
> > Following what I wrote "then" at bottom of
> > https://github.com/apache/ofbiz-tools/tree/master/demo-backup/Attic
> > ie  "sudo certbot renew", I got:
> >
> >     <<
> >     jleroux@ofbiz-vm1:~$ sudo certbot renew
> >     otp-md5 372 of4769
> >     Password:
> >     Saving debug log to /var/log/letsencrypt/letsencrypt.log
> >
> >     - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -
> > - - - - -
> >
> >     No renewals were attempted.
> >     - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -
> > - - - - -
> >      >>
> >
> > I'll ask Infra using the log where errors are logged and I get this
> trying
> > to update certbot:
> >
> >     <<
> >     root@ofbiz-vm1:/home/jleroux# sudo apt install --only-upgrade
> certbot
> >     Reading package lists... Done
> >     Building dependency tree
> >     Reading state information... Done
> >     certbot is already the newest version (0.40.0-1ubuntu0.1).
> >     0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 8 not upgraded.
> >     root@ofbiz-vm1:/home/jleroux#
> >      >>
> >
> > Maybe we need to upgrade Ubuntu (currently 20.04.6 LTS) to latest LTS, ie
> > 24.04...
> >
> > Jacques
> >
> > Le 29/07/2025 à 13:36, Jacques Le Roux a écrit :
> > > Hi Omar,
> > >
> > > Thanks for the alert. It's actually all demos that are impacted (ie
> also
> > next and trunk).
> > >
> > > Some years ago we had to make the update manually. Since then it was
> > automated. I'll have a look and maybe alert Infra about that.
> > >
> > > Jacques
> > >
> > > Le 29/07/2025 à 08:53, Omar Abdullwahhab a écrit :
> > >> Hello dev community,
> > >> Please update the certificate for the demo stable site its expired on
> > Jul
> > >> 26,
> > >> https://demo-stable.ofbiz.apache.org
> > >>
> > >> Thank you
>

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