Hi Greg,

Rather than reducing the size of time_t and joining the systems with the
year 2038 problem, I think that a better solution is to solve the problem
permanently.
---
Agree with your last part, we should find a better way to ‘ put things
right once and for all ’, and not use the unsigned int to *postpone the
occurrence of things*

So, Someone thinks time_t will overflow when set int32_t, should think his
code should open TIME64 or handle the overflow himself.


Gregory Nutt <spudan...@gmail.com> 于2024年11月5日周二 05:24写道:

> You are right, there is no requirement by any standard that time_t be
> signed.  Lots of discussion on Wikipedia:
> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Unix_time
>
> The only motivation for making time_t signed is for compatibility with
> GLIBC.  For example, some very old Unix systems permit negative time values
> for times before the epoch.  The penalty for this compatibility with a
> non-standard different is a loss of range and the year 2038 problem.
>
> This is the year 2038 problem:
> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Year_2038_problem
>
> Any product released after this change will fail in the field in 2038.
> That could be an issue for a few systems with very long lives.  Most OSs
> have already fixed the year 2038 problem... but in different ways.  See the
> Year_2038_Problem for solutions that are fielded now (one fix, ironically,
> is to make time_t unsigned).
>
> Rather than reducing the size of time_t and joining the systems with the
> year 2038 problem, I think that a better solution is to solve the problem
> permanently.
>
>
> On 11/4/2024 2:50 PM, b...@the-wanderers.org wrote:
>
> Hi Guiding,
>
> Both your reference and the Open Group specification documents both only
> state that POSIX requires time_t to be an integer type, not a signed
> integer.
>
> The Open Group Base Specifications Issue 8
> <https://pubs.opengroup.org/onlinepubs/9799919799/>
> pubs.opengroup.org <https://pubs.opengroup.org/onlinepubs/9799919799/>
> [image: favicon.ico] <https://pubs.opengroup.org/onlinepubs/9799919799/>
> <https://pubs.opengroup.org/onlinepubs/9799919799/>
>
> GNU libc additionally mandates a signed integer but notes this is a GNU
> extension and not a POSIX requirement.
>
> The 2024 edition of POSIX has introduced a requirement for time_t to be 64
> bits. As has already been noted this is itself a substantial change.
>
>   Byron
>
> On 4 Nov 2024, at 11:33 PM, Guiding Li <ligd...@gmail.com>
> <ligd...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> Hi all:
>
> We decide change 'time_t' from unsigned type to signed type in PR:
> https://github.com/apache/nuttx/pull/14460
>
> Because when compile some POSIX library, there always be a warning on
> comparison
> between time_t and zero.
>
> For example:
>
> The following code will generate warnings:
> auto now = time(nullptr);
> auto last_active_time = GetEventService(self->ctx_)->getActiveTime(); if
> (last_active_time + 60 * 1000 / 1000 <= now) {
>
> src/ams/../controller/controller_timer.h: In lambda function:
> src/ams/../controller/controller_timer.h:117:57: warning: comparison of
> integer expressions of different signedness: 'long long int' and 'long long
> unsigned int' [-Wsign-compare]
> 117 | if (last_active_time + 60 * 1000 / 1000 <= now) {
>
>
> And we can find an reference on the official website:
>
> https://www.gnu.org/software/libc/manual/html_node/Time-Types.html
>
> On POSIX-conformant systems, time_t is an integer type.
>
>
> The comparation of the merits and shortcomings:
>
> Advantage:
> For the most POSIX applications they assume the time_t as signed and do
> compare with 0.
> The code will become more compatible after this modification.
>
> Disadvantage:
> None.
>
>
> If there is any question about this, please let me know.
> Thanks,
> Guiding
>
>

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