Hi Nathan: Yep it's easy to host the NuttX Online Demo on any website, it's
just a bunch of Static HTML, JavaScript and WebAssembly files. Please lemme
know whom I should work with :-)

Meanwhile I'll upstream the TinyEMU RISC-V Port of NuttX. Thanks!

Lup

On Wed, Jan 17, 2024 at 8:40 AM Nathan Hartman <hartman.nat...@gmail.com>
wrote:

> This is very cool! Could it be possible to put it direct on the NuttX
> website? e.g., "Try NuttX in the browser"
>
> On Mon, Jan 15, 2024 at 5:58 PM Alan C. Assis <acas...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > Interesting!
> > Thank you very much Lup for investigating it further!
> >
> > BR,
> > Alan
> >
> > On Mon, Jan 15, 2024 at 2:34 AM Lee, Lup Yuen <lu...@appkaki.com> wrote:
> >
> > > << Do you think it is possible to find an alternative to use the users'
> > > browser connection to communicate to the Internet? This way it avoids
> > > users' consumption of all internet limits on the server side. >>
> > >
> > > Hi Alan: You're right, TinyEMU Emulator talks to a WebSocket VPN hosted
> > at
> > > `
> > > relay.widgetry.org` that's throttled at 40 kB/s (for free, fair use).
> > But
> > > I
> > > don't see a good alternative to this WebSocket VPN:
> > >
> > > (1) Can the Web Browser talk directly to the internet without WebSocket
> > > VPN?
> > >
> > > TinyEMU and VirtIO Networking are sending Ethernet Frames / IP Packets
> > from
> > > the Web Browser to the internet. But Web Browsers are not allowed to
> send
> > > IP Packets directly. That's why we need to tunnel the packets through a
> > > WebSocket VPN.
> > >
> > > (2) Can we host our own WebSocket VPN on our Local Computer?
> > >
> > > Possibly. But then we will have to host the Web Server on our Local
> > > Computer too. Which makes it cumbersome to install.
> > >
> > > (3) Can we host the WebSocket VPN on a server operated by the NuttX
> > > Project?
> > >
> > > Probably not, because we need to throttle the internet traffic for
> free,
> > > fair use. And prevent abuse.
> > >
> > > I've documented my findings on TinyEMU, VirtIO Networking and WebSocket
> > > VPN:
> > >
> > >
> >
> https://github.com/lupyuen/nuttx-tinyemu#tinyemu-networking-in-the-web-browser
> > >
> > > Lup
> > >
> > > On Sun, Jan 14, 2024 at 9:54 PM Alan C. Assis <acas...@gmail.com>
> wrote:
> > >
> > > > Hi Lup,
> > > >
> > > > Thank you very much!
> > > >
> > > > Looking at the WebSocket VPN article it said the connection goes
> > through
> > > > the server hosting the emulator.
> > > >
> > > > Do you think it is possible to find an alternative to use the users'
> > > > browser connection to communicate to the Internet?
> > > > This way it avoids users' consumption of all internet limits on the
> > > server
> > > > side.
> > > >
> > > > BR,
> > > >
> > > > Alan
> > > >
> > > > On Sun, Jan 14, 2024 at 4:17 AM Lee, Lup Yuen <lu...@appkaki.com>
> > wrote:
> > > >
> > > > > Thanks Alan! Yep "The Construct" looks like a cool way to learn ROS
> > > > online,
> > > > > we should do something similar for Teaching NuttX Online!
> > > > >
> > > > > As for Emulated Networking in the Web Browser: TinyEMU Emulator
> > > supports
> > > > > VirtIO Networking. But it's tunnelled through a WebSocket VPN,
> > because
> > > of
> > > > > browser limitations.
> > > > >
> > > > > I might test this with NuttX and see how well it works. (I'm also
> > keen
> > > to
> > > > > emulate Ox64 BL808 RISC-V SBC in the Web Browser)
> > > > >
> > > > > TinyEMU VirtIO Networking: https://bellard.org/jslinux/tech.html
> > > > >
> > > > > WebSocket VPN:
> > > > >
> https://www.benjamincburns.com/2013/11/10/jor1k-ethmac-support.html
> > > > >
> > > > > Lup
> > > > >
> > > > > On Sun, Jan 14, 2024 at 8:10 AM Alan C. Assis <acas...@gmail.com>
> > > wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > > Really cool Lup!
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Maybe it could be used for training and deduction purposes. Do
> you
> > > know
> > > > > > "The Construct" they are using a solution like that to run Linux
> in
> > > the
> > > > > > browser:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > https://app.theconstructsim.com/login/
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Is it possible to get network enabled and use it to communicate?
> It
> > > > could
> > > > > > open new possibilities!
> > > > > >
> > > > > > BR,
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Alan
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > On Sat, Jan 13, 2024 at 8:30 PM Lee, Lup Yuen <lu...@appkaki.com
> >
> > > > wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > NuttX now boots and runs inside a Web Browser! (With
> WebAssembly)
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Try "ostest" here: https://lupyuen.github.io/nuttx-tinyemu
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > This article explains how we…
> > > > > > > (1) Boot NuttX in the Web Browser with TinyEMU RISC-V Emulator
> > > > > > > (2) Modify NuttX for HTIF Console (Berkeley Host-Target
> > Interface)
> > > > > > > (3) Explore VirtIO Console with OpenAMP Library
> > > > > > > (4) And how we might use it: Emulate NuttX Gadgets in the Web
> > > > Browser?
> > > > > A
> > > > > > > Real-Time NuttX Dashboard that lights up as the various NuttX
> > > Drivers
> > > > > are
> > > > > > > called?
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Here's the article:
> > > > > https://lupyuen.codeberg.page/articles/tinyemu.html
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > How will you use NuttX in a Web Browser? Please lemme know 🙏
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Lup
> > > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > >
> > > >
> > >
> >
>

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