Hi!

What needs to be done to open the discussion to consider changing the rules?

Also please see a very detailed comment on the github issue here by
@robertlipe: 
https://github.com/apache/incubator-nuttx/issues/6896#issuecomment-1227971503

Thanks,

Alan

On 2022/08/25 07:07:43 Byron Ellacott wrote:
> Hi,
>
> On Wed, Aug 24, 2022 at 11:58 PM Xiang Xiao <xi...@gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
> > On Wed, Aug 24, 2022 at 11:38 AM Nathan Hartman <ha...@gmail.com>
> > wrote:
> >
> > > On Tue, Aug 23, 2022 at 8:33 PM Alan Rosenthal <
alan.rosent...@gmail.com
> > >
> > > wrote:
> > >
> > > > Hello NuttXers,
> > > >
> > > > I recently posted an issue to the NuttX Github page:
> > > > https://github.com/apache/incubator-nuttx/issues/6896
> > > >
> > > > I'll summarize my thoughts here.
> > > >
> > > > Currently NuttX has a C89 requirement. However, there is code in the
> > > > codebase today that is not C89 compliant. Rather than reworking
> > > > existing code to be C89, we should reevaluate the C89 requirement.
> > > >
> > > > C99 and C11 have added a lot of language features, and by updating
the
> > C
> > > > standard to a newer version, we will add more tools to the NuttX
> > toolbox.
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > Hello Alan,
> > >
> > > Thanks for sharing your thoughts.
> > >
> > > I believe one of the big reasons for C89 compliance in the codebase is
> > > because NuttX supports a wide range of microcontroller chips, not all
of
> > > which have a C99 or newer toolchain available.
> > >
> > >
> > Here is the arch supported by NuttX:
> > C99
> > arm Y
> > arm64 Y
> > avr Y
> > ceva Y
> > hc
> > mips Y
> > misoc
> > or1k Y
> > renesas Y
> > risc-v Y
> > sim Y
> > sparc Y
> > x86 Y
> > x86_64 Y
> > xtensa Y
> > z16
> > z80
> > I don't know which compiler is used for hc, misoc, z16 and z80, but
other
> > arches support C99 very well.
> > So, the question is whether the C99 requirement will impact these four
> > arches.
> >
>
> All of the Zilog family CPUs (z8, z16, z80, z180, ez80) use the ZDS-II
> development software released by Zilog by default. The C compiler in
ZDS-II
> is C89 and a C99 requirement will stop the successful build of the z16 and
> z80 (z80, z180, ez80 cpu) arches.
>
> Some time ago I contributed the necessary changes for the eZ80 target to
> build using an experimental release of clang with Z80 and eZ80 support,
but
> it's not been sufficient priority for me to either contribute the
automated
> tests to have it continue to build, nor to even keep reasonably up to date
> with NuttX changes, so I can't say for sure that it still builds
correctly.
> If it does build, then the eZ80 CPU in the z80 arch would at least still
be
> usable for those willing to use an experimental clang port.
>
> --
> bje
>

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