>-----Original Message-----
>From: Arie de Muijnck <nu...@ademu.com>
>Sent: 19 January 2022 22:34
>> FAT seems broken for NOR flash devices. Spent days getting nowhere.
>>
>> Since FAT and flash devices don't really play well together anyway
>> (already found s512 erases a flash sector at least 4 times when
>> writing a cluster), so I'm wondering, in parallel, if NuttX has other
>> tricks up its sleeve that might achieve the same end? I want t:
>>
>> - write to the flash, for logging, from the app running on the board.
>> This can be done with any FS - or raw - as far as I'm concerned. Not
>> the issue.
>>
>> - an external PC (ideally Linux, Windows and MAC) needs to be able
>> "see" the data via USB (msd) and read/write to the memory (log data,
>> config files, audio files, etc). Hence FAT.
>>
>> With a flash size of between 32 and 128Mbyte, I don't think a ramdisk
>> formatted as FAT holding a copy of the flash data is really the way to
>> go (board only has 64Mbyte RAM anyway).
>>
>> I'm guessing I'll have to keep up the battle - that NuttX is winning -
>> of FAT vs. NOR flash until the bitter end, but if anyone does have
>> other ideas I'm listening!
>>
>
>Why the fixation for MSD mode and FAT?
>Using a serial stream protocol also could access the files in a transparent 
>matter.
>I remember the days of KERMIT, ZMODEM, CP, etc., over a serial link.
>Making the device appear as an NDIS network adapter also allows e.g. FTP to
>transfer files.
>
>Arie

Reasonable question, and my thinking may be flawed - a little knowledge is a 
dangerous thing!

In the past I have developed products with USB that then needed a dedicated PC 
app to be developed to transfer data and/or configure it.

I wish to ensure that this device can be configured by any computing device 
(Windows, Linux, MAC) and USB+MSD seemed the lowest common denominator without 
the need to develop a cross-platform app. Ultimately I will need an Android/iOS 
app and Bluetooth LE connectivity but that's in the future.

"Configuration" would be via files in industry standard format (e.g. CAN dbc 
files, or .wav files with "known" names - such as "startup.wav") or that can be 
readily created in a text editor or downloaded from our website (e.g. xml files 
or even a .ini type file). USB+MSD would allow these to be simply copied across 
to the embedded device. And FAT is what I understand to be the most portable FS.

Likewise log files (up to 64Mbyte) would be in an industry-standard format 
allowing 3rd party viewers to be used (again, no need for a custom app) and 
USB+MSD+FAT seemed the best way to transfer these.

RNDIS/USB or whatever is actually a very interesting idea though so I will look 
at that.

I'm open to all suggestion and I'm listening :)

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