+1 keep it simple Verstuurd vanaf mijn iPhone
> Op 23 dec. 2019 om 17:06 heeft Sebastien Lorquet <sebast...@lorquet.fr> het > volgende geschreven: > > OK. > > That is too much email for me, I just cant follow and understand all these > discussions anymore. Almost 300 messages among multiple overlapping threads > full > of heated opinions in 2-3 days is insane. > > I just cant dedicate enough time reading any more of this. I have other things > to do than trying to understand these multiple rebooted workflows proposals > that > span days (and nights!) of discussions. > > So I can't vote on anything. I dont understand what is going on anymore. I'm > lost. Probably not important since I did not ask and choose to be a committer, > but since opinions are asked, here are mine. > > > Can someone please sum up what we have to decide in a short email, less than > a page? > > > To be honest, viewed from here, I just seem to understand that some opinions > are > very pushy and are trying to act before decisions are settled. > > Also some kind of extra-heavy decisions on a full process NO ONE has been able > to install up to now for years. > > I just want to say that going to apache should not be an occasion to try to > force the process of someone liking or another just because not everyone has > an > equally stronger opinion and voice and free time for emails. > > On my part, seeing too hard pushes in any specific direction just rings an > alarm > bell to be extra-cautious. > > > I think the process should be as simple as possible, and improved later. Just > select the absolute bare minimum that could start to work and discard > everything > else so this project can work again. > > > We are using git so things are reversable, right? We will not get this right > the > first time, so lets keep room for errors. If I understand correctly the > bitbucket repositories are still in a consistent pre-apache state and the > apache > ones can be reset? or is the apache->bb mirroring already active? > > Also, I did not see a notification that the BB repositories had been frozen. > > > These workflow and reviewing discussions are just killing extremely valuable > time for everyone without visible progress (because too many messages). > > > So again, I would like to read a very short state of the union at monday > 2019-Dec-23 17:01 UTC+1. > > Otherwise I cant make decisions. And I guess I am not the only one. > > > Sebastien > > >> Le 22/12/2019 à 17:25, Gregory Nutt a écrit : >> >>> Let's get everyone's thoughts on the table >> >> I suppose that we should keep the discussion for 72 hours then call the >> vote. >> We need to allow time for everyone to comment and with the holidays, we may >> not be able to get good feedback. Should we still call a vote if people are >> not participating? >> >> I will call the vote on your behalf in 72 hours. >> >> Greg >> >> >> >