On 2010-01-12, at 5:52 PM, Brett Porter wrote:

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> On 13/01/2010, at 7:53 AM, Dennis Lundberg wrote:
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>> Jason van Zyl wrote:
>>> The site stuff needs to be completely decoupled from releases. It such a 
>>> horrible coupling and causes nothing but problems. Release and the 
>>> documentation that goes along with it are completely separate.
>> 
>> That might be so, but the site descriptor is needed for (site)
>> inheritance reasons and therefor needs to be deployed to the repo.
> 
> Yep, that's right.
> 

No. It doesn't. I'm not planning on using the site plugin or Maven 3 and no one 
should have this stuff baked in by default. So now we can't use PGP validation 
because the site descriptor doesn't work which has nothing to do with trying to 
get the build deployed.

> It's not actually coupled to the release, it is coupled to the POM lifecycle. 
> I agree with Jason that that isn't the best, so probably in 3.0 that goal 
> needs to be added to your POM by hand when you have a site descriptor to 
> deploy (or the site plugin might change how it does things in some other way).
> 
> I don't agree with the statement "release and the documentation that goes 
> along with it are completely separate", as I find that a useful way to work 
> in general, and it is fundamental to publishing things like Javadoc and JXR, 
> however it isn't really relevant to this problem as you've said.
> 

I'll qualify that and say completely separate actions. In many cases 
documentation is not necessarily generated by Maven. Another process may tie 
these things together but it should not happen in the build.

> - Brett
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Thanks,

Jason

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