Jason, in fact we're right ;-)
These plugins are used in the bootstrap but they are downloaded from the
remote repository instead of to be built before.
I'll change that to build them during the bootstrap. It's anormal that we
have to download them.

arnaud

On 1/26/06, Arnaud HERITIER <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> No, I'm right :-)
> All touchstone tests are in the core :
>
> http://svn.apache.org/viewcvs.cgi/maven/maven-1/core/trunk/src/test/touchstone-build/
> We don't use the plugins.
>
> Arnaud
>
> On 1/26/06, Arnaud HERITIER <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >
> > ouchhh
> >
> > I forgot it ;-)
> >
> > thx jason !
> >
> > arnaud
> >
> > On 1/26/06, Jason van Zyl < [EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > >
> > > Arnaud HERITIER wrote:
> > > > I would like also to propose that we move to the sandbox these
> > > components
> > > > that we don't use :
> > > > - examples
> > >
> > > > - touchstone
> > > > - touchstone-partner
> > >
> > > These aren't used in the m1 bootstrap anymore?
> > >
> > > >
> > > > WDYT ?
> > > >
> > > > On 1/26/06, Arnaud HERITIER <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > > >> Lukas, I forgot to say that I began to update this page :
> > > >> http://docs.codehaus.org/display/MAVEN/Maven+1.X+plugins
> > > >> If you can take a look at it.
> > > >>
> > > >> Arnaud
> > > >>
> > > >> On 1/26/06, Arnaud HERITIER <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > > >>>
> > > >>>
> > > >>> On 1/24/06, Lukas Theussl < [EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > > >>>> Hello again,
> > > >>>>
> > > >>>> We have discussed this before somewhat superficially but never
> > > got to
> > > >>>> a
> > > >>>> concrete conclusion so I'd like to call for a formal vote to
> > > finalize
> > > >>>> this and collect some opinions if necessary. Let me point out and
> > > >>>> emphasize that we are quite short of manpower for m1, so the main
> > > >>>> motivation for this call is a lack of maintainers for a lot of
> > > plugins
> > > >>>> (right now we still have 65 plugins that would ship with the
> > > core).
> > > >>>>
> > > >>>> The following are all plugins that I have never used myself, I
> > > have no
> > > >>>> idea how and if they work and I don't want to invest time to find
> > > out.
> > > >>>> They are all basically unmaintained, I therefore propose to move
> > > them
> > > >>>> back into the sandbox:
> > > >>>>
> > > >>>>
> > > >>>> Plugins to demote with work to do:
> > > >>>>
> > > >>>> [+1] repository - (do we need upload-bundle? I don't see where
> > > it's
> > > >>>> used)
> > > >>>
> > > >>> Carlos, Brett, are you sure that we can always use these bundles
> > > with
> > > >>> the m2 repo ?
> > > >>> Do you continue to upload in the old m1 repository ?
> > > >>>
> > > >>>> [+1] release - move used classes to SCM plugin (Fabrizio?)
> > > >>>> [+1] j2ee - move the resolver tag into ear and j2ee:validate-war
> > > to
> > > >>>> war:validate (Stephane?)
> > > >>>>
> > > >>>>
> > > >>>> Other unmaintained plugins:
> > > >>>>
> > > >>>>
> > > >>> [] abbot
> > > >>> [] castor - not working (see MPCASTOR-7)
> > > >>> [] hibernate
> > > >>> [] jbuilder - inferior to other IDE plugins
> > > >>> [] jnlp
> > > >>> [] uberjar - not working (see MPUBERJAR-8), inferior to
> > > javaapp-plugin
> > > >>> +1
> > > >>>
> > > >>> [] antlr
> > > >>> [] cruisecontrol
> > > >>> [] jcoverage - replaced by Cobertura
> > > >>> [] jdiff
> > > >>> [] nsis
> > > >>> -1 I can maintain and release cruisecontrol and nsis. As noticed
> > > by
> > > >>> Brett, nsis is used generate the maven installer for windows.
> > > >>> I'll take a look at the others.
> > > >>>
> > > >>> [] jboss
> > > >>> [] jetty
> > > >>> +1, I'll help Vincent M to improve the cargo plugin.
> > > >>>
> > > >>> For the dependencies updates, it's not important because those
> > > plugins
> > > >>> (even if they are not re-released) will use automatically the
> > > libraries
> > > >>> defined in the maven   1.1-beta3 core.
> > > >>>
> > > >>> Arnaud
> > > >>>
> > > >>> A single +1 signifies agreement with demoting all of them,
> > > otherwise
> > > >>>> please specify individually. I expect anybody who puts a -1 to
> > > any of
> > > >>>> them to come up with an alternative solution (re-publish as is?
> > > take
> > > >>>> over maintenance and get ready for m1.1? other?).
> > > >>>>
> > > >>>> Finally, I guess we will have to do a poll on the user list as
> > > well,
> > > >>>> even though I don't know how binding that can be if we don't find
> > > a
> > > >>>> maintainer.
> > > >>>>
> > > >>>> Here's my tentative +1, hope to hear from you within 72h.
> > > >>>>
> > > >>>> -Lukas
> > > >>>>
> > > >>>>
> > > >>>>
> > > >>>>
> > > >>>>
> > > >>>>
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> > > >
> > >
> > >
> > > --
> > >
> > > jvz.
> > >
> > > Jason van Zyl
> > > jason at maven.org
> > > http://maven.apache.org
> > >
> > > happiness is like a butterfly: the more you chase it, the more it will
> > > elude you, but if you turn your attention to other things, it will
> > > come
> > > and sit softly on your shoulder ...
> > >
> > >   -- Thoreau
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